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I remember reading about these spheres a couple of years ago but never really looked into it. Now some more have come to light and have rekindled my interest.
Some of these are upto 16 tons and the blocks that they were sculpted from had been moved a large distance from the mountains, unless of course they were sculpted in the mountains and just rolled downhill. :)
Obviously lots of different theory's regarding the spheres so ive tried to put together enough information from varying sources for you to look over.
Mysterious spheres in Costa Rica (http://www.costaricaholiday.co.uk/blog/?p=358)
A stone sphere believed to belong to indigenous tribes of Costa Rica has been found near the Osa Peninsula by archaeologists. This is not the first time an ancient artifact like this has been found.
The spheres are believed to be from the Chiriqui period from 800 to 1500 AD.
Lots of good links and pictures at this site (http://mysteryspheres.com/info.htm)
It is believed, based upon contextual information, that the spheres are to product of the Diquis culture, during their period of from 500 CE to 700 CE (AD). However, as these artifacts are of stone, and there is the possibility of relocation, and other environmental factors, proper dating for their creation is somewhat speculative. There are others who speculate that the age of the spheres extends back as far as 4,000 years and the products of a much older culture.
"The best spheres are perhaps the finest examples of precision stone carving in the ancient world." The maximum circumference error in one 6-foot, 7-inch diameter sphere in only 0.5 inch, or 0.2%
world-mysteries.com (http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_12.htm), a good factual account.
Whatever "mystery" exists has more to do with loss of information due to the destruction of the balls and their archaeological contexts than lost continents, ancient astronauts, or transoceanic voyages.
Hundreds of stone balls have been documented in Costa Rica, ranging in size from a few centimeters to over two meters in diameter. Almost all of them are made of granodiorite, a hard, igneous stone. These objects are not natural in origin, unlike the stone balls in Jalisco, Mexico that were described in a 1965 National Geographic article. Rather, they are monolithic sculptures made by human hands.
Maybe?... :roll:
Many of the balls were found to be in alignments, consisting of straight and curved lines, as well as triangles and parallelograms. One group of four balls was found to be arranged in a line oriented to magnetic north. This has led to speculation that they may have been arranged by people familiar with the use of magnetic compasses, or astronomical alignments. Unfortunately, all but a few of these alignments were destroyed when the balls were moved from their original locations, so measurements made almost fifty years ago cannot be checked for accuracy. Many of the balls, some of them in alignments, were found on top of low mounds.
Fascinating monoliths, what was their purpose, how old are they and who made them? Were they religious totems, astronomical markers or signs of wealth or prestige among the culture that made them?
Love a good mystery.
mojo.
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04-12-2011, 10:33 PM
Round hole.
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MissSilver
05-13-2011, 12:00 AM
:bitch:
Apocales
05-13-2011, 12:58 AM
I would stick my dick in them.
http://www.mysteryspheres.com/
They are uniformly crafted from granite, andesite, and some even of sedimentary stone, and weighing up to between 13 and 16 tons (depending upon estimates).
No immediate local source exists for the granite (where the stones were found); and no stone-working tools have been found near the spheres.
http://www.mysteryspheres.com/more.htm
Pictures of map here.
Two spheresAdditionally, some extremely unique spheres have also been found. Two such spheres have uncharacteristic carvings of what appears to be celestial maps.
Red Skare
01-09-2012, 08:27 PM
And they never invented the wheel
And they never invented the wheel
well they did but it was an oblong.
WynHawks
01-09-2012, 08:55 PM
...i dont know why pottery and other artifacts found with or near them would lend credence to dating... floods couldve transported the other artifacts... maybe nature created them... maybe giants did it...
...... maybe giants did it...
nephilim. yup.
...i dont know why pottery and other artifacts found with or near them would lend credence to dating... floods couldve transported the other artifacts... maybe nature created them... maybe giants did it...
hmmmm.....my thought process is more about the transportation of such large objects at a time when supposedly humans were unable to move such large objects across open water. not aliens or giants. :)
WynHawks
01-09-2012, 08:58 PM
...massive flooding...
TheSyndicate
01-09-2012, 08:59 PM
Swamp gas.
You didn't see anything.
Move along.
WynHawks
01-09-2012, 09:02 PM
...its always been an earthquake zone, which sometimes create tsunamis...
...has anyone ever proved these werent created by nature?... like spewed from a volcanic erruption?...
Watcher-In-The-Shadows
01-09-2012, 10:16 PM
So you're saying they've got big balls? :D
century
01-09-2012, 10:17 PM
Dont NEVER mention FLOODS!!
...its always been an earthquake zone, which sometimes create tsunamis...
...has anyone ever proved these werent created by nature?... like spewed from a volcanic erruption?...
yeah i'm pretty sure that they've conclusively shown them to have been carved. will try and find the info.
What's up with apostrophe in sphere's ?
WynHawks
01-09-2012, 10:21 PM
...i've read where they sort of proved that the balls couldve been carved - but - have they really proven that the balls were not created naturally and then later chipped at by humans?...
Hazelnut
01-09-2012, 10:21 PM
What's up with apostrophe in sphere's ?
sphere code
What's up with apostrophe in sphere's ?
someone edited my post, probably pack or skunk, i never make grammatical err;o"r's!$?
Well at least that mystery's solved. Thanks.
WynHawks
01-09-2012, 10:22 PM
What's up with apostrophe in sphere's ?
...i'm sure it was done intentionally to get your attention... ;)
Hazelnut
01-09-2012, 10:23 PM
cool, a new word...attentionally. :D
century
01-09-2012, 10:23 PM
someone edited my post, probably pack or skunk, i never make grammatical err;o"r's!$?
HAHAHAHA:rolleyes:
Jeeziz. Only a putz like you woulda found that funny. Put the bong down.
...i've read where they sort of proved that the balls couldve been carved - but - have they really proven that the balls were not created naturally and then later chipped at by humans?...
i'm not sold on water being able to do that, the accuracy of one of the really large spheres was something like within .5 of an inch to being perfectly spherical. could water do that to hundreds of sheres spread over a large area, and on an island hundreds of kilometres away? maybe but i think that humans carving them would be just as possible and/or logical assumption.
century
01-09-2012, 10:28 PM
Water for long periods can corrupt our current dating cant it? Say, whole continents for excess periods of time?
could water do that to hundreds of sheres spread over a large area, and on an island hundreds of kilometres away?does the pope wear a dress?
Is this the sphere's room or the Borg? I'm getting tired.
Is this the sphere's room or the Borg? I'm getting tired.
go and have a nap then granpa, we'll keep the noise down.
century
01-09-2012, 10:32 PM
The whole time frame is way off base, but thats what really interest me. That in itself creates to much friction for he archaeologist, or the geologist, even the physicist have it wrong. Who do you trust these days? :shitfuck:
Hey can ya type a little more lightly? I'm trying to get some sleep.
WynHawks
01-09-2012, 10:33 PM
...dumb way down and try me to follow me, lol... a bit of hot liquid chocolate dropped into water will make an almost perfect ball instantly... why couldnt the same hold true for molten rock that was spewed out by a volcano and landed in water?... is that too stupid to be possible?...
Hazelnut
01-09-2012, 10:34 PM
Did she really just say that?
Yes. Now shut the fuck up.
...dumb way down and try me to follow me, lol... a bit of hot liquid chocolate dropped into water will make an almost perfect ball instantly... why couldnt the same hold true for molten rock that was spewed out by a volcano and landed in water?... is that too stupid to be possible?...
could be possible wyn but the composition of the sphere's is different, andalite, some granite ones and something else as well.
WynHawks
01-09-2012, 10:38 PM
...so, you're saying, rock formations that make up a volcano are all the same?... :D
...so, you're saying, rock formations that make up a volcano are all the same?... :D
ok....you gonna make me go and research this now....really!!!
WynHawks
01-09-2012, 10:40 PM
...me?... make you do something?... would i?... could i?... :D
Hazelnut
01-09-2012, 10:41 PM
Yes. Now shut the fuck up.
HEY! ARE YOU ASLEEP yet?
WynHawks
01-09-2012, 10:42 PM
...he's huntin rabbit...
http://www.geology.sdsu.edu/how_volcanoes_work/Controls.html
Only ten elements make up the bulk of most magmas: oxygen (O), silicon (Si), aluminum (Al), iron (Fe), magnesium (Mg), titanium (Ti) calcium (Ca), sodium (Na), potassium (K), and phosphorous (P). Because oxygen and silicon are by far the two most abundant elements in magma, it is convenient to describe the different magma types in terms of their [B]silica content (SiO2). The magma types vary from mafic magmas, which have relatively low silica and high Fe and Mg contents, to felsic magmas, which have relatively high silica and low Fe and Mg contents. Mafic magma will cool and crystallize to produce the volcanic rock basalt, whereas felsic magma will crystallize to produce dacite and rhyolite. Intermediate-composition magmas will crystallize to produce the rock andesite. Because the mafic rocks are enriched in Fe and Mg, they tend to be darker colored than the felsic rock types.
SiO2 CONTENT
MAGMA TYPE
VOLCANIC ROCK
~50%
Mafic
Basalt
~60%
Intermediate
Andesite
~65%
Felsic (low Si)
Dacite
~70%
Felsic (high Si)
Rhyolite
There also exists more unusual magmas that erupt less commonly on the Earth's surface as ultramafic, carbonatite, and strongly alkaline lavas. (http://amkon.net/showthread.php/Unusual%20lava.html)
STRONGLY ALKALINE LAVAS
One way to classify lavas is by their alkali content, reflected in their weight percent of Na2O + K2O. In contrast to the common lava types (basalt (http://amkon.net/showthread.php/Basaltic_lava.html), andesite (http://amkon.net/showthread.php/andesiterhyolite_lava.html), dacite (http://amkon.net/showthread.php/andesiterhyolite_lava.html/lanchor774476), and rhyolite (http://amkon.net/showthread.php/andesiterhyolite_lava.html/lanchor774476)), there exists less common lavas that define mildly alkaline trends (e.g., with increasing silica content: alkali basalt, trachybasalt, trachyandesite, trachyte, and comendite), and strongly alkaline trends (e.g., with increasing silica content: tephrite, phonotephrite, tephriphonolite, and phonolite). Although these lavas can occur in a variety of tectonic settings, they are typically found in either (1) continental or oceanic intraplate settings, where there is often a lack of significant tectonic control, (2) continental rift zones, and (3) the back-arc setting of subduction zones.
Ok what i'm getting from this site is that the three types of rock which make up the spheres would not come from the same volcanoe/mountain range explosive event. not saying it's not possible but i think they are saying its unlikely. some of the rock content would seem to be more likely to have come from a western saudi or east african area?
might have to read up on it a bit more now.....sigh.....
ok so after some more digging there are 3 types of rock that the spheres are made from.
Granodiorite (granite basically) which can be extruded by volcanoes.
Andresite also can be extruded by volcanoes but not generally from the same extrusion event as Granodiorite.
And lastly sedimentary stone which is formed by the collection of particles and not extruded by a volcanic event.
Perhaps some of them were created by a volcanic event and humans copied them on easier to shape stone?
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o223/mojo4sale/Mysterious-Spheres-310x356.jpg
Hahaha I was just about to post pics or GTFO :D
Hahaha I was just about to post pics or GTFO :D
maybe its just me but for some reason they just look too 'perfect' to me to have been formed by some sort of natural event especially as theres so many of them. but there doesn't seem to have been much progress since i first posted this in 2008 as far as new information regarding who made them and where they came from.
WynHawks
01-09-2012, 11:22 PM
Ok what i'm getting from this site is that the three types of rock which make up the spheres would not come from the same volcanoe/mountain range explosive event. not saying it's not possible but i think they are saying its unlikely.
...but the balls are mostly granodiorite...
Granodiorite is a plutonic igneous rock, formed by an intrusion of silica-rich magma, which cools in batholiths or stocks below the Earth's surface. It is usually only exposed at the surface after uplift and erosion have occurred.
...isnt that sort of like my liquid chocolate into water scenario?...
...sure is an interesting topic...
WynHawks
01-09-2012, 11:24 PM
maybe its just me but for some reason they just look too 'perfect' to me to have been formed by some sort of natural event especially as theres so many of them. but there doesn't seem to have been much progress since i first posted this in 2008 as far as new information regarding who made them and where they came from.
...but nature makes perfectly shaped things all the time... fractals for one...
...but the balls are mostly granodiorite...
Granodiorite is a plutonic igneous rock, formed by an intrusion of silica-rich magma, which cools in batholiths or stocks below the Earth's surface. It is usually only exposed at the surface after uplift and erosion have occurred.
...isnt that sort of like my liquid chocolate into water scenario?...
...sure is an interesting topic...
I've never dropped something hot into something cold to see what would happen but it makes good sense Wyn.
......isnt that sort of like my liquid chocolate scenario?...
i would like to hear a lot more about your liquid chocolate scenario. pics would be helpful to the ahhhh.....research......
Martian Exile
01-09-2012, 11:26 PM
My stepfather was an archaeologist in south america when I was a kid. Those balls were all over the place.
Martian Exile
01-09-2012, 11:27 PM
Granodiorite splits spherically when heated by fire.
...but nature makes perfectly shaped things all the time... fractals for one...
yeah i get that, but so many of them all perfectly shaped from a volcanic event, which would have been extremely violent, and spread over such large distances.
meh, i like the mystery of it either way. :D
WynHawks
01-09-2012, 11:28 PM
I've never dropped something hot into something cold to see what would happen but it makes good sense Wyn.
...doesnt have to be cold to make a perfect ball... my mom used to make candies and to make sure the water was the right temp (was hot almost boiling) she dropped a little liquid chocolate into it... if it balled up, the temp was right... i shouldve paid more attention, lol...
Martian Exile
01-09-2012, 11:29 PM
There are ways for even neolithic peoples to finish them off to a perfect sphere after heating them.
Here you go mojo:
http://www.only-apartments.com/images/only-apartments/paris-chocolate.jpg
Martian Exile
01-09-2012, 11:30 PM
They were no mystery when I was a kid there, but making a mystery sells more books.
WynHawks
01-09-2012, 11:35 PM
Granodiorite splits spherically when heated by fire.
:D
WynHawks
01-09-2012, 11:36 PM
...we lost mojo with the chocolate nipple, lmao... :D
Martian Exile
01-09-2012, 11:38 PM
I could describe how they finished them off after heating them, but that would take a wall of type. Let's just say there is no mystery.
Sorry I'm sure he'll be back when he's finished ;)
They were no mystery when I was a kid there, but making a mystery sells more books.
fuck off your boring.
do the volcanoes in costa rica produce basaltic andresite or granodiorite? and it still doesn't explain the spheres that were made from sedimentary stone?
Here you go mojo:
http://www.only-apartments.com/images/only-apartments/paris-chocolate.jpg
What? No comment?
You feeling okay?
Martian Exile
01-09-2012, 11:48 PM
do the volcanoes in costa rica produce basaltic andresite or granodiorite? and it still doesn't explain the spheres that were made from sedimentary stone?
Pft. That was my Uncle Emmitt, he levitated them to their final resting place with a martian levetronerator in return for sea turtles.
WynHawks
01-09-2012, 11:49 PM
:lol:
What? No comment?
You feeling okay?
ohh you fuckers turned the page......thank you Pam. Mwaaaaah!!!!!
Cogburn
01-09-2012, 11:55 PM
...but nature makes perfectly shaped things all the time... fractals for one...
Volcanoes erupt all the time near bodies of water.
Can you find evidence of your "chocolate theory" in nature in the context of an eruption?
WynHawks
01-10-2012, 12:01 AM
...cog, you brain fried thang - if i had evidence, i wouldve posted it rather than posting silly stuff that proves i'm clueless...
Cogburn
01-10-2012, 12:07 AM
...cog, you brain fried thang - if i had evidence, i wouldve posted it rather than posting silly stuff that proves i'm clueless...
Ah... carry on. :cool:
i found this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_bomb
A volcanic bomb is a mass of molten rock (tephra (http://amkon.net/wiki/Tephra)) larger than 65 mm (2.5 inches) in diameter, formed when a volcano (http://amkon.net/wiki/Volcano) ejects viscous (http://amkon.net/wiki/Viscosity) fragments of lava (http://amkon.net/wiki/Lava) during an eruption. They cool into solid fragments before they reach the ground. Because volcanic bombs cool after they leave the volcano, they do not have grains (http://amkon.net/wiki/Crystallite) making them extrusive (http://amkon.net/wiki/Extrusive) igneous (http://amkon.net/wiki/Igneous) rocks. Volcanic bombs can be thrown many kilometres from an erupting vent, and often acquire aerodynamic shapes during their flight. Bombs can be extremely large; the 1935 eruption of Mount Asama (http://amkon.net/wiki/Mount_Asama) in Japan expelled bombs measuring 5–6 m in diameter up to 600 m from the vent.
Spherical bombs also form from high to moderately fluid magma. In the case of spherical bombs, surface tension (http://amkon.net/wiki/Surface_tension) plays a major role in pulling the ejecta into spheres
pictures of bombs here but they don't look very spherical.
http://www.gc.maricopa.edu/earthsci/imagearchive/bombs.htm
this looks more spherical but according to the other srticle the majority of volcanic bombs are irregular and very rarely reach the size of the costa rica stones. as you can see its not that big.
8697
...cog, you brain fried thang - if i had evidence, i wouldve posted it rather than posting silly stuff that proves i'm clueless...
not silly at all, i've learnt all sorts of stuff about volcanoes and volcanic rock today. :D
http://www.volcanodiscovery.com/photoglossary/andesite.html
Andesite can be considered as the extrusive equivalent to plutonic diorite. Andesites are characteristic of subduction tectonic environments in active oceanic margins, such as the western coast of South America. The name andesite is derived from the Andes mountain range.
http://csmres.jmu.edu/geollab/fichter/IgnRx/GranoDio-1A1.html
Granodiorite, like diorite, is the result of fractional melting of a mafic parent rock above a subduction zone. It is commonly produced in volcanic arcs, and in cordilleran mountain building (subduction along the edge of a continent, such as with the Andes Mountains). It emplaces in large batholiths (many thousands of square miles) and sends magma to the surface to produce composite volcanoes with andesite lavas.
Ok that seems to be saying that the granodiorite forms the ranges and the andesite is the magma that is forced to the surface, if thats the case wouldn't you expect the greater majority of the spheres to be made of andesite and not granodiorite if they were formed from extremely hot magma (900 + degrees) coming into contact with water?
Hmmmm....maybe, but then you'd expect them to be much older than the 600 - 4000 year age that is being bandied around? They would have to have formed during the Andes formation for them to be granodiorite.
WynHawks
01-10-2012, 12:43 AM
...maybe they are much older... the "dating" game always seemed politically motivated...
...the volcanic bomb thang was very interesting... if it can happen on a small scale, why cant it happen big?...
...maybe they are much older... the "dating" game always seemed politically motivated...
...the volcanic bomb thang was very interesting... if it can happen on a small scale, why cant it happen big?...
yeah those bombs were pretty cool.
christ don't get me started searching dating techniques ffs or i'll never get home. :p
WynHawks
01-10-2012, 01:05 AM
...okay - heres an easy question, i hope... whats the name of that place in south america (peru maybe) where the massive monolith type thingys are strewn about as if an atom bomb (probably wrong term) went off nearby?... you know what i'm talkin about?...
Cogburn
01-10-2012, 01:43 AM
http://www.volcanodiscovery.com/photoglossary/andesite.html
Andesite can be considered as the extrusive equivalent to plutonic diorite. Andesites are characteristic of subduction tectonic environments in active oceanic margins, such as the western coast of South America. The name andesite is derived from the Andes mountain range.
http://csmres.jmu.edu/geollab/fichter/IgnRx/GranoDio-1A1.html
Granodiorite, like diorite, is the result of fractional melting of a mafic parent rock above a subduction zone. It is commonly produced in volcanic arcs, and in cordilleran mountain building (subduction along the edge of a continent, such as with the Andes Mountains). It emplaces in large batholiths (many thousands of square miles) and sends magma to the surface to produce composite volcanoes with andesite lavas.
Ok that seems to be saying that the granodiorite forms the ranges and the andesite is the magma that is forced to the surface, if thats the case wouldn't you expect the greater majority of the spheres to be made of andesite and not granodiorite if they were formed from extremely hot magma (900 + degrees) coming into contact with water?
Hmmmm....maybe, but then you'd expect them to be much older than the 600 - 4000 year age that is being bandied around? They would have to have formed during the Andes formation for them to be granodiorite.
Paired with your other information there's two questions to ask:
When the material from which the spheres are made is first ejected from a volcano, is it even physically possible for it to form into a volcanic bomb? They may have been too viscous or too fluid to form into the shape required.
If so, is there any evidence of volcanoes near the stones (1,000mi radius) producing volcanic bombs?
There's no way to be definitive but we can at least establish a certain level of credible probability that these could, in fact, be simple volcanic ejecta.
Alessandra
01-10-2012, 03:24 AM
or simply, BE farting.