Psychobabble Bullshit!

[JiveTurkey]

While I lend a great deal of credence to SOME small snippets of the psychologist "doctrine", I am a firm believer than 99% of it is fucking BULLSHIT!


1. Bi-polar disorder: Honestly, who the fuck is NOT bipolar to some extent? Maybe it's just bad luck on my part, but I have yet to meet ANYONE who isn't capable of "typical" bipolar behavior. Even to extremes.

2. Depression, the "Illness": So, happy is a mood? Sad is a mood? Angry is a mood? Silly is a mood? But depression is an illness? WHAT THE FUCK? Personally, I put depression right up there with alcoholism in the illness department. Sure, many people are "unnaturally" depressed. But really, what is an unnatural level of depression? Isn't part of being human the FACT that each of us handles things differently, especially emotions? To hear the way some patients and "doctors" talk about depression, it's a fucking MIRACLE that we made it to the point where the meds were available to us. Seriously, how the fuck did we survive before prozac? And why do things seem worse since? Personally, 90% of the people I have known to be placed on antidepressants were FAR FAR FAR worse AFTER the drugs than before. Even if they didn't realize it. Hey, an alcoholic doesn't realize it most of the time either.

3. "Rehabilitation" for the criminal mind: NOTHING pisses me off more than this fucking BULLSHIT of rehabilitating rapists and pedophiles. What the fuck does it say about us as a society when we take more pity on the fucking sick piece of shit who raped and killed a 3 year old than we do the 3 year old and his/her family? Most people now who support this kind of sick shit try to use the reverse of this argument but, hey, I hate to tell you.......you don't have a fucking leg to stand on. "Illness" (bullshit!) or no illness, the fucking criminal should NEVER NEVER NEVER be given better treatment than their victim. Never. Not one fucking time. You know what I say? I say kill that fucker and everyone who stands up to defend his or her actions with this fucking "illness" shit.

I'm sick and fucking tired of this "laying blame off" shit. That is, in my honest opinion, exactly what business shrinks and their ilk are in.

You are depressed? Hell, it must've been your parents.

You ate a 3 year old after torturing and raping them? Hell, it must be the music.

You are an alcoholic? Shit, blame the fucking mexican that took your job.

You are lonely? It must be because your daddy was a smoker.


Fuck, it's goddamn INHUMAN to not feel the EXTREMES of EVERY emotion at some point in time. Sure, some of us have it worse than others but HELL, that's just the way the goddamn dice fall sometimes. Sure, it's not fair but it IS life.


You know what I want?

I want a shrink that kicks the alcoholic in the balls and says "STOP FUCKING DRINKING ASSHOLE!!!!"

I want the shrink that tells the bitch who's whining because he don't have a girlfriend to smack the piss out of said bitch and tell him if he'd quit his fucking whining MAYBE he would have one.



Most of all, I want people to realize that life is fucking HARD sometimes.

No pill, bottle or $500/hr shrink is going to fix that.



There is more (of course), but I suppose I will spare you guys until later.


I leave you with this.


Whatever happened to crazy??

Amen.



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[vckums]

Chris Rock 4 President!

I agree 100% Jasn on what you said.

"You shouldn't spank your kids. That will teach them violence." Has the violence stopped? No. It will teach them to not fuck around.

People in general have become whiney fucks.

[JiveTurkey]

Chris Rock 4 President!

I agree 100% Jasn on what you said.

"You shouldn't spank your kids. That will teach them violence." Has the violence stopped? No. It will teach them to not fuck around.

People in general have become whiney fucks.


See...


that's why I love you.

[Bitchkoma]

I want a shrink that kicks the alcoholic in the balls and says "STOP FUCKING DRINKING ASSHOLE!!!!"

Next time ask them what school of thought they subscribe to. If the shrink isn't Adlerian or Behaviourist, you won't get that sort of treatment.

Also, psychologists are to be trusted more than psychiatrist. The former actually wants to help. The latter just wants to sell you drugs.

[Yo Mama]

Well, as someone who's suffered from dysthymia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysthymia) most of my life, I can vouch for the fact that it is very real.

I think that some things are totally overdiagnosed -- much like ADD is in kids, instead of dealing with the fact that maybe the kids just need some extra attention. There are kids that really have it, but most of them don't.

Makes it hard to get proper treatment in a land of fakers.

[vckums]

My oldest was diagnosed with ADHD. I've seen the kid and his school work with no meds and on meds. There's a big difference when he's on the meds and can focus. His wasn't a behaviour problem, it was a focus/school issue. Poor kid couldn't sit still to pay attention and was getting dinged for it.

I do think a lot of parents medicate their kids and they don't need it. It's just kids being kids and them being lazy parents. I've also seen kids that need meds and the parents won't let them, and the child suffers in school because of it. There should be stricter guidelines for dolling out meds like this.

[vckums]

Chris Rock 4 President!

I agree 100% Jasn on what you said.

"You shouldn't spank your kids. That will teach them violence." Has the violence stopped? No. It will teach them to not fuck around.

People in general have become whiney fucks.


See...


that's why I love you.

Woohoo! My days awesome now!

[Lexion]

Dysthymia sounds a lot like
the Goth culture.

Surely all of us don't have
the same disease.

A realistic outlook on society
causes those symptoms, too.

Not dissing you, GN. Just
calling it from my perspective.

Regards,
Lex

[Grand]

Problems such as alcoholism or severe depression may go deeper than just alcoholism and severe depression. Slapping it out of them is like blocking the river when it will just find another path. It is cutting the bulb but leaving the root of the problem.

Of course, sometimes people do need a wake up call. A good metaphorical slap into reality.

As far as the medical conspiracies go, Big Pharma just loves disease! I'm sure they encourage new labels often. And imagine what they are putting into their product! Anything they want!

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd229/Grandnyorai/big-pharma.png

[JiveTurkey]

Problems such as alcoholism or severe depression may go deeper than just alcoholism and severe depression. Slapping it out of them is like blocking the river when it will just find another path. It is cutting the bulb but leaving the root of the problem.

Of course, sometimes people do need a wake up call. A good metaphorical slap into reality.

As far as the medical conspiracies go, Big Pharma just loves disease! I'm sure they encourage new labels often. And imagine what they are putting into their product! Anything they want!

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd229/Grandnyorai/big-pharma.png



smacking them would be far more effective than telling them it's not their fault and teaching them to lay blame elsewhere.


:)

J

[Foxtrot Oscar]

It's always someone else's fault these days.

RESPONSIBILITY is extinct.

Also read some thing the other day that said like 1 in 3 Americans have some sort of mental illness. If they keep inventing I'm sure they can get it down to 1 in 2...

I'm sure that there are people who have problems that require help and meds and stuff, but not even close to the numbers that are on them.

Fox

[Boondock]

i got hit with a diagnosis of bipolar mixed...if i was to come off my meds, i would be off my rocker....my wife just told me the other day that she has noticed a large change in me...

i still have my days but in general i am better

[nudespook]

Bah!

Most psychologists couldn't give a shit. Only a proportion are involved in therapy of any sort, and of those most use behavioural, CBT, and other 'talking' cures.

[theeindiee]

Treating the symptoms never helped anyone. What about when the meds lose their effectiveness? you need more and more. You become dependent on a doctor and a pill, and now you're completely mind controlled. I think the only reason the pills do anything is because you are consciously aware that they are supposed to do something, therefore, your subconscious mind restrains your behavior.

Lex was right on the money. It's because you are an animal reacting to being caged.

We are all caged. Some can deal with it better than others.

I think that the most magical pill of all would be the death of pharmaceutical corporations, the death of government, and the rise of natural and shamanistic healing.

I feel fucking trapped here, too. Ya know, maybe I need to be on meds because sometimes (keep in mind, if you met me you'd think I was the nicest guy in the world, and I am pretty nice I guess) I wanna fucking take an automatic rifle and kill all of you (in general).

Because fucking society and everyone who buys into this way that it's been for as long as any living person can premember, is living in ignorance of a better way of being, and they will defend it to the death... "because the monkeys have been trained very well", says the unknown scientist.

So please.... continue to eat your poison in hopes that it cures a horrible reaction to an unnatural prison.

Please... continue this ludicrous nonsense for another 50 years, and then slowly watch me descend into madness because of it, and be lobotomized, and be put on lithium and prozac and morphine drips and strapped to a psycho chair in a padded room because IF I DON'T, I WILL BANG MY HEAD ON THE FUCKING WALL UNTIL MY BRAIN TURNS TO SOUP!!!!!.... and then just continue forgetting that we are all caged animals. OF COURSE WE'RE GUNNA GO STIR CRAZY! I WANNA FUCKING SCREAM AT YOU ALL AND CHOKE YOU UNTIL YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND THAT!!!!!

Sorry, but Jesus Fucking Christ.

You are all good people, and I just don't get it... any of it.

[Alessandra]

So in this aspect of blaming, maybe I can blame the ETs for the state of mind i'm in?

You'd figure, fake 'disclosure', so you can drug that percentage of the population (believers)

[Yo Mama]

Indy, for some people the meds work. I'm one of them. Not everything is a freaking conspiracy.

You really need to relax a little; the planet's been fucked as long as people have been on it, and it's not going to change any time soon. All you're going to do is give yourself an embolism.

[1972]

Wow, once again Jasn has proved that the civil war may be over but the wrong side won.

~~~

How do you/we expect this to turn out? I mean, we live in a world so different than the generations before us. Hell, even since our childhood it has been re-molded. How much more disconnected can society become before it completely falls down? People do not communicate face to face; they have the cells and their computers. they have their TV's with 9000 channels, telling them what to do and what to think. and the scary part is, we bought it; hook, line and sinker. We are scared of our neighbors; we are scared in general.

This combined with the bombardment of inane script commercials on prime time and in print. I am not a doctor why are you showing me this commercial about this medicine? I know that if I was a doctor and some jackhole patient came in demanding their "As-Seen-On-TV" presciption, I would smack them up side the head. Here's your sign zombie, have a nice day. People go around "self-diagnosing" themselves and their doctors fucking let them!

Three-quaters of these things aren't issues at all. Like Jasn said, it's call LIFE!
Now, this is not ignoring the actual mental medical conditions that are in fact real; because there are serious metal diseases but for fuck sake, we need to nip this shit in the bud, or is it already too late?

Entertain me, entertain me! My mind must be occupied 24/7 or I will get depressed! You won't like me when I am drepressed. So what did we do before Prozac? Wine is fine but wiskey's quicker. Suicide. Labotomize. Electro-shock. Fun shit. Trepanation always sounded fun.

Not that anyone on this board needs told this but: People will believe anything. If it is rammed down their throats enough, they will believe. 1 in 3 my ass. People with these pseudo issues have never learned how to be comfortable in their own skin; they have never learned how to quiet the barking dogs in their own heads.

THX1138
Soma
Comform
Have another pill.
Fuckers.

[theeindiee]

1972, that was amazing.

[1972]

1972, that was amazing.

Move along.
Nothing to see here.

Or

Every 5 years I actually write something worth reading.

Ooppss, I forgots my cape...

:batman:

(Oh, and thanks indiee)

[vckums]

I think meds help people. Not all obviously, but they do help.

I've seen people who need to be on meds, I've had to transport them to a psych facility cause they were off meds or didn't get evaluated yet.

[1972]

I think meds help people. Not all obviously, but they do help.

I've seen people who need to be on meds, I've had to transport them to a psych facility cause they were off meds or didn't get evaluated yet.

Oh no, there are def. people who need to be medicated.
No arguement there.

[Martian Exile]

I'm with 1972.

That is what rubber rooms are for.

ADD did not exist before the do-gooders outlawed the swatt on the butt.

[Oblivion]

ive always had this theory that a lot of ADD type illness are caused by all the shit people consume these days because they are too lazy to cook or eat properly combined with the changing suburbs in which most of us live.

chick nuggets that are about 2% chicken.
lots of fast food from on the run lifestyles
foods with artificial flavours, artificial colours, additives, preservatives, msg + the likes.

getting lots of sugary caffienated drinks and snacks with carbs. especially the engery drinks and now we have this diet drink craze with asparteme.

combine that with
alcoholic or drug abusing parents
men are taught to embrace their feminine side
women are taught to be more assertive, borderline on agressive at times.
lots of housing redevelopments cramming more houses into less space.
councils allocating less parks + ovals to the people forcing them to either play on roads or in their homes on playstations or PC's or listening to their ipods.

and you wonder why kids are so fucked up they need to tune into some other legend of zelda reality while being in a croozy ritolin induced mood?
:evil:

edit: i wonder what results a study on ADD / adhd by city vs country area would yield.