Oh shit, I'm agnostic...

[Tetsujin]

...and may soon become atheist. My rational behind this is the fact that humans came to be. I've been thinking about this for a while now, and what "god" would want to create a war loving greedy race of monkeys (no offence Mojo). The Christian "god" speaks of love and peace. I see none on the large scale. War, death, famine: that is what I see. I could just be a pessimist but I no longer see nor feel the god I once loved. If a god does exist, do I really want anything to do with a tyrannical deity who allows such suffering? Do I want to devote anytime to a being who "preaches" peace but allows war to continue? I just don't know anymore.....

[Yo Mama]

I won't push you, just want to say, if you have questions, or need some reading links let me know. Maybe they'll help you figure it out.

The videos and arguments at http://godisimaginary.com/ are extremely compelling.

[Tetsujin]

Thank you GN! I knew you would be one of the first to post on this topic :D . I will check out that website. I took a quick look and it seems to cover some of the big questions on my mind.

[Yo Mama]

It can be a bit harsh to some people's sensibilities, but it's to the point too.

I'll be happy to mentor you should you decide to walk the ag/ath path.

[Yo Mama]

BTW, this site http://www.jhuger.com/kisshank.php really shines the spotlight on the weirdness that is religion.

And it's fucking funny, too.

[Tetsujin]

LOL thanks GN!

[mojo]

You leave us po' monkeys out of it!!! :D

I know its on the other site but take a look at this thread of mine
CTG and see if it rings true for you.


http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread344092/pg1

The Greatest Conspiracy Ever Perpetrated, which is mostly
the same as my post here on AmKon "The Bible a deliberate fraud"
but with some extra links and information.

If it does ring true for you then you are heading in the right
direction imo, but i do not wish to force you or anyone else to
abandon your faith just because of something i say, trust your
heart and logic.


mojo

[Bitchkoma]

Do I want to devote anytime to a being who "preaches" peace but allows war to continue? I just don't know anymore.....

Devote yourself to Ceiling Cat.


1 Oh hai. In teh beginnin Ceiling Cat maded teh skiez An da Urfs, but he did not eated dem.

2 Da Urfs no had shapez An haded dark face, An Ceiling Cat rode invisible bike over teh waterz.

3 At start, no has lyte. An Ceiling Cat sayz, i can haz lite? An lite wuz.4 An Ceiling Cat sawed teh lite, to seez stuffs, An splitted teh lite from dark but taht wuz ok cuz kittehs can see in teh dark An not tripz over nethin.5 An Ceiling Cat sayed light Day An dark no Day. It were FURST!!!1

6 An Ceiling Cat sayed, im in ur waterz makin a ceiling. But he no yet make a ur. An he maded a hole in teh Ceiling.7 An Ceiling Cat doed teh skiez with waterz down An waterz up. It happen.8 An Ceiling Cat sayed, i can has teh firmmint wich iz funny bibel naim 4 ceiling, so wuz teh twoth day.

9 An Ceiling Cat gotted all teh waterz in ur base, An Ceiling Cat hadz dry placez cuz kittehs DO NOT WANT get wet.10 An Ceiling Cat called no waterz urth and waters oshun. Iz good.

11 An Ceiling Cat sayed, DO WANT grass! so tehr wuz seedz An stufs, An fruitzors An vegbatels. An a Corm. It happen.12 An Ceiling Cat sawed that weedz ish good, so, letz there be weedz.13 An so teh threeth day jazzhands.

14 An Ceiling Cat sayed, i can has lightz in the skiez for splittin day An no day.15 It happen, lights everwear, like christmass, srsly.16 An Ceiling Cat doeth two grate lightz, teh most big for day, teh other for no day.17 An Ceiling Cat screw tehm on skiez, with big nails An stuff, to lite teh Urfs.18 An tehy rulez day An night. Ceiling Cat sawed. Iz good.19 An so teh furth day w00t.

20 An Ceiling Cat sayed, waterz bring me phishes, An burds, so kittehs can eat dem. But Ceiling Cat no eated dem.21 An Ceiling Cat maed big fishies An see monstrs, which wuz like big cows, except they no mood, An other stuffs dat mooves, An Ceiling Cat sawed iz good.22 An Ceiling Cat sed O hai, make bebehs kthx. An dont worry i wont watch u secksy, i not that kynd uf kitteh.23 An so teh...fith day. Ceiling Cat taek a wile 2 cawnt.

24 An Ceiling Cat sayed, i can has MOAR living stuff, mooes, An creepie tings, An otehr aminals. It happen so tehre.25 An Ceiling Cat doed moar living stuff, mooes, An creepies, An otehr animuls, An did not eated tehm.

26 An Ceiling Cat sayed, letz us do peeps like uz, becuz we ish teh qte, An let min p0wnz0r becuz tehy has can openers.

27 So Ceiling Cat createded teh peeps taht waz like him, can has can openers he maed tehm, min An womin wuz maeded, but he did not eated tehm.

28 An Ceiling Cat sed them O hai maek bebehs kthx, An p0wn teh waterz, no waterz An teh firmmint, An evry stufs.

29 An Ceiling Cat sayed, Beholdt, the Urfs, I has it, An I has not eated it.30 For evry createded stufs tehre are the fuudz, to the burdies, teh creepiez, An teh mooes, so tehre. It happen. Iz good.

31 An Ceiling Cat sayed, Beholdt, teh good enouf for releaze as version 0.8a. kthxbai.

http://www.lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=Genesis_1

[Yo Mama]

http://icanhascheezburger.wordpress.com/files/2008/02/funny-pictures-agnostic-cat-shadows-window.jpg (http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/02/10/funny-pictures-sees-no-evidence-of-celing-cat/)
see more crazy cat pics (http://icanhascheezburger.com)

[Occam]

[short version] Corey, I had decided I was agnostic when I was a teen. One day in college, my girlfriend asked If I believed in Santa Clause. I answered, "No". Next, "Do you believe in god?" "You know I'm an agnostic." Then she said, "Why aren't you a Santa Clause agnostic if you're a god agnostic?"

I didn't speak to her for a week, but I've been an atheist ever since.

Occam

[mojo]

[short version] Corey, I had decided I was agnostic when I was a teen. One day in college, my girlfriend asked If I believed in Santa Clause. I answered, "No". Next, "Do you believe in god?" "You know I'm an agnostic." Then she said, "Why aren't you a Santa Clause agnostic if you're a god agnostic?"

I didn't speak to her for a week, but I've been an atheist ever since.

Occam

LOL, thats funny occam, you got PWNED!!!