My Problem with "Jesus Dying for My Sins"

[JiveTurkey]

While I am not as "militant" (to quote ATS mods) as my favorite Nuisance, there are a few points with religious belief (Christianity in particular) that really irk me.


One of the main problems I have is this whole thing about Jesus dying for our sins.

While I don't have any real beef with the IDEA, I do find it inherently flawed (and ultimately stupid) for one big reason.


If Jesus was who the Christians say he was, what kind of "step" was he taking in dying on the cross?

Hell, who WOULDN'T, given the knowledge that you are going to "paradise", be willing to give the whole "death" thing a go?

Seriously, considering the times, one would have to think that the aftermath of the Cross o' Doom (that shit is trademarked fuckers) would actually be a step up from wandering about in the oppressive heat and dealing with the "evil" Romans eh?


And what about from god's standpoint?


"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life."


So what exactly is going on here from a SIMPLE standpoint?


God loves us so much that he's "bringin his boy home"??

I mean COME THE FUCK ON!!!

Where is the sacrifice here? I just don't it.


Sure, there must of been some pretty hardcore suffering up there on that cross but, speaking from personal experience, it couldn't be too much worse than a MONSTER case of food poisoning. (You know, coming out of both ends at the same time for 2 weeks straight coupled with the massive craps, dehydration, blurred vision and persistant weakiness).

I suppose that what I am trying to say in a nutshell is...



THROW ME UP ON THE CROSS POP AND BRING DADDY TO THE PROMISE LAND!!

Jasn

[Bitchkoma]

Sebab dia tak mati. Yang mati itu si pengkhianat. Kitab sudah diseleweng.

[Yo Mama]

Jasn, as you know he didn't "die for our sins." It's the guilt trip that the xians have laid on people for 2000 years to keep them in line.

Xianity creeps me out, especially the ones that go to church and get to crying bitterly for the crucifixion. It seems like they worship the cross, and not the man.

In many ways, Xianity is a death cult, disguised as a cult of life, and that is one of the reasons I finally began to question what it was all about. And look where that led me. :lol:

[mojo]

Considering the christians actual original emblem was the pentagram/pentacle and not the cross i don't get why they bleat about it either. The whole thing is a made up mish mash of much older religions.
I have come to the conclusion that there either was NO Jesus Christ, or if there was it was some poor sap that the priests used as a means of ensuring that their son of god was not an egyptian.
The whole Jesus myth was actually based on a young egyptian king by the name of Tutankhamen. :shock: imho.

[Yo Mama]

And a compelling argument can be made that the Virgin Mary and baby Jesus are actually reworkings of Isis/Horus.

[mojo]

And a compelling argument can be made that the Virgin Mary and baby Jesus are actually reworkings of Isis/Horus.

And much, much more....can be traced even further back to tie christianity to all the older religions. Its pretty much a copy/paste with a few minor adjustments to give the priests/church more power and influence over the sheeple.

The holy trinity
the flood
the garden of eden
the tree of knowledge
the serpent/satan
hell

All of it!!!!