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Tetsujin
02-25-2008, 03:20 AM
Well did I?

mojo
02-25-2008, 03:25 AM
yep John's made a few posts.

some of it i hadnt read before, i got sick of all the sniping that used to go on in those threads on ATS.

Tetsujin
02-25-2008, 03:47 AM
Ah thats neat. Howdy John nice to see ya posting!

Tetsujin
02-25-2008, 09:27 AM
To lazy to edit, hey John come intorduce yourself! 8)

Kacen
02-25-2008, 01:10 PM
Did John Lear get sick of ATS's Stalinist policies as well?

Welcome aboard the refugee forum!

Yo Mama
02-25-2008, 03:56 PM
Like so many of us, he was banned.

Bitchkoma
02-25-2008, 04:31 PM
I don't think he was banned. Maybe post-banned.

Yo Mama
02-25-2008, 05:37 PM
According to the man himself, he was outright banned.

Bitchkoma
02-25-2008, 05:43 PM
Wow! A cover-up! Because if you look at his profile on the other site it doesn't have the words "Banned" emblazoned below his username.

gunner
02-25-2008, 05:44 PM
It doesnt show him as banned, but the john lear section is gone now. It showed on his profile that his last visit was today?

Yo Mama
02-25-2008, 05:47 PM
Maybe it's a retraction because he joined us over here. :lol:

mojo
02-25-2008, 05:48 PM
here is John's version of events BK,

www.thelivingmoon.com (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/menu.html#NEWS)

unfortunately the ats thread which was discussing it got closed down so there has been no further statements from there.

its nice to have his posts and theory's here to discuss anyway. :)

JiveTurkey
02-25-2008, 05:51 PM
From what I read (as written by John), it's just more ATS "business as usual".


Not really surprising.


I just wonder how many members joined up for the sole purpose of "blasting" John every chance they got.


As I said before, 10 trolls are worth more to Bill financially than 1 good member.

If Jim Marrs actually posted more than once a month, I'm sure he would get the same shit. In the troll department I mean, not the "banning". Bill will wait until AFTER the book for that one.

Jasn

gunner
02-25-2008, 06:00 PM
Well if that is how it went down, then poop on ATS's shoes, and I for one am happy that John is here. Some of the stuff that goes on in his noodle sends my BS meter ringing, but just cause I dont believe all his theories, they are still interesting to read and ponder.

Kacen
02-25-2008, 07:05 PM
How can they ban one of the soul's of ATS? Son of a fuck...

WHY was he banned? What did he do?

Remember the thread with Jose Escamilla? He had two warnings at a certain point in a thread. I was banned before I could figure out what happened after that.

We should contact him.

Kacen
02-25-2008, 07:32 PM
Lurked on ATS with an alternate proxied account; yeah Jose was banned. The bastards!

I sent an email to him on the three accounts of his I can find...his most personal didn't get through on two tries (mailerdaemon bullshit), and another just didn't go through. The other is inconclusive. It may make it to him.

mojo
02-25-2008, 07:37 PM
Yeah i remember that thread, he was getting baited severely by one particular poster, cant remember his name.
I think he handled himself well to start with but then the baiting just got too much.

Yo Mama
02-25-2008, 07:39 PM
How can they ban one of the soul's of ATS? Son of a fuck...

WHY was he banned? What did he do?



go to the link Mojo posted. You'll see John's side of the story.

After my own banning, I really have issues trusting anything ATS staff has to say, so I'm willing to take John's version at face value.

Kacen
02-25-2008, 08:46 PM
How can they ban one of the soul's of ATS? Son of a fuck...

WHY was he banned? What did he do?



go to the link Mojo posted. You'll see John's side of the story.

After my own banning, I really have issues trusting anything ATS staff has to say, so I'm willing to take John's version at face value.

Seconded.

JiveTurkey
02-25-2008, 09:57 PM
Since my banning happened almost identically to John's, I'm definitely willing to take his side at face value.


Naturally, mine wasn't as high profile haha.


But ask some of my old buds what it was like trying to even put "bring back simiusdei" in an avatar or signature.


:P


Silly bastard 'ol Bill is.


Jasn

johnlear
02-26-2008, 01:00 AM
Hi guys,

All I can say is that Mark and Bill never told me why I was post banned.

I can still log in but rarely do. There is nothing there of any interest to me anymore.

When Bill caught Jeff Ritzmann lying to him I was asked not to say anything which I refused to do.

I worked hard for ATS, I did a lot of radio plugs and spent about 8 to 14 hours posting for about a year. I really enjoyed watching ATS grow although Mark never missed a chance to tell me my contribution was not even 'a blip on the radar screen'. Thats ok. I had fun most of the time.

I admit that I was a little put out when Bill post banned me without asking my side of the issue first. I think he was pretty embarrassed to find out Ritzmann had lied to him and he wanted everybody to keep quiet.

Neither Mark or Bill have any intellectual skills. They are business men. They try not to take sides but that doesn't last very long. They both believe the last .gov that emails them with the best counter story.

The mods are now little more than 'thought police'. I have seen them post the Miss Manners picture at the drop of the hat and continually enforce 'on topic' to the point of the ridiculous.

The last few months were a little tough because I was continually getting hammered by the same guys over the same issues. The number of government sponsored disinformant agents was steadily rising. And I can understand this because ATS now reaches a lot of people. I would post a really classified little tidbit of information and here would come a disinfo agent chompin' at the bit.

The beginning of the end for me was when Bill gave a warning to Sleeper for posting something about 'picking his nose'. I think Bill was sincerely trying to get ATS members ready for a tea party with the Queen.

I am glad to be away from there.

I spent a few days with Mark in San Jose last year and found out what his problem was. I can only wish him the best.

I suspect I know what Bill's problem is and again I can only wish him the best.

If either of them don't know "what goes around comes around" they are about to find out.

Nice to be here. :)

JiveTurkey
02-26-2008, 02:04 AM
1 - Neither Mark or Bill have any intellectual skills. They are business men. They try not to take sides but that doesn't last very long. They both believe the last .gov that emails them with the best counter story.

2 - If either of them don't know "what goes around comes around" they are about to find out.

3 - Nice to be here. :)



1. Agreed. 120%


2. Indeed! Karma is a motherfucker.

3. Glad to have ya!


Jasn

Tetsujin
02-26-2008, 02:13 AM
Wow IMO this is great! I cant wait for some of the debate and real converstaion about some topics!

Bitchkoma
02-26-2008, 03:56 AM
Nice to be here. :)

Call your friends over! The more the merrier (but not too much) :D











K-Beast!

:rifle:

:cheers:

Iamsix
02-26-2008, 12:01 PM
Well Mr Lear Welcome to the other side. While I dont agree with alot of what you say, I do hold you upmost respect for you in how you alway handled yourself over there. Some of the attacks you have endured are/were totally uncalled for and down right wrong.

Kacen
02-26-2008, 05:13 PM
Omg Jose Escamilla responded to my email!


I'll join and put out ALL the BS surrounding my being banned. Springer and the others are full of BS and they know it. I have to goods on these bozos. ATS is not an unbiased forum at all. Instead it's run by right wing skeptics posing as neutral hosts of ATS giving people freedom of speech. Instead they "censor"people like you and I in the name of being banned for unruly behavior. The fact is I caught Springer blatantly lying to forum members about me and can prove this. So thanks for the heads up. Jose Escamilla

mojo
02-26-2008, 05:29 PM
Nice to be here. :)

And its absolutely fantastic to have you here John.

As some of the others have mentioned we are all never going to see eye to eye on all subjects, but one thing you can count on here is open and honest discussion that will be carried out with respect for your opinion.

And then we'll flame each other. :lol:

Thanks for joining. :)

mojo

PM me or jasn if you need anything. (that goes for everyone btw)

Oh and well done Kacen. :thumright:

Firestar
02-26-2008, 07:39 PM
Hello John...from AccessDenied.
Here you can address me as Firestar.

johnlear
02-26-2008, 09:20 PM
Sorry to bother you guys but Mark from ATS reads our thread (guess he doesn't have enough to do over at ATS) and sent me this email this afternoon. Below that is my response.

From Mark Allin:



John:

I have only one question… Why do you insist on saying that Ritzmann lied? He admitted what he did the first time Bill asked him. Nobody lied, well maybe you did since you told sleeper you were “looking for a way out” anyway, and based on the fact you started a public thread about the petty insults, rather than email me like you have for over a year, it looks like you were trying to create all the drama you could around your “getting out”, or at least that’s how it looks from here.

Oh and I have a 179 IQ by the way sport. ;)

Best Regards,

Mark W. Allin


From me to Mark:



Well, well, well.

Pretty much figured that would bring you out of the turnip patch Mark.

This is the message I got from Bill after Jeff admitted lying:

“whoops... sorry... I didn't realize I didn't send you what we discovered.

It turns out that Jeff admitted to posting pretty much what you attributed... and later had second thoughts and removed them. Which is why the material never showed up in the Google Cache (it generally takes 4-6 hours for a new post to be archived by Google).”

Unfortunately Jeff did not admit that in the beginning or a lot of trouble would have been saved.

Nor did either you or Bill offer: “Sorry for the trouble John. We were wrong about not being able to find all those posts. They were there all along.”

Oh, and Mark: I.Q. is not intellect. Intellect is what you do with your I.Q.

Need I say more? :)

John


The 'public' thread Mark claims I started was started by someone else about the Billy Meier photos that Michael Horn posted on C2C and was on its tenth page when I posted the comments the Mods were letting slip through.

I can understand Mark getting mixed up. Its after 12 o'clock if you know what I mean.

I also find it highly amusing that Mark would advertise his I.Q. I mean really! Talk about denying ignorance. :)

mojo
02-26-2008, 09:57 PM
I think Bush has an above average IQ as well. :)

I haven't had much to do with any of those guy's (owners or
admin), i guess i slip under the radar, but i have noticed a distinct
change in the quality of posts and posters there. It's sad, because
i do love the place and many of the members.
I think, judging from your responses on Thelivingmoon and the
emails you posted that the biggest mistake they made was not
being totally upfront from the start.

I find it odd that they would even be bothered checking out this
site considering that most of the members here are banned
members and the rest of us are current members who dont raise a
ripple.
I'd welcome input from Mark if he is reading threads here, i know
Djarums decided it wasn't a worthwhile exercise after a few strong
posts in his direction but that seemed like a cop out.

But that is the difference here, you can speak your mind, openly
and honestly and publicly (and swear). Nothing to hide
here.

Whatever the case maybe John, your welcome here. :D

And i don't want to speak for Jasn but i'm sure opinion and
discussion with mark or other staff and admin from ATS would be
welcome as long as the members of this site were respected.



waiting patiently for TPM to nail me with a gif. :lol:

Yo Mama
02-26-2008, 10:42 PM
As far as members from ATS joining here are concerned, staff or no, I have no issues.

It's only when I get the feeling that I'm being moderated from the other site on this site that I get put out of sorts.

I personally can't help the way I feel, because I know I didn't violate the T&C at ATS, and there was a bit of misdirection and cover-up in Atheist Chat before it was shut down.

I am left with a bad taste in my mouth, and an unfortunate side effect of an all-out ban such as mine is that I am extremely suspicious of staff from ATS now.

But don't let any of that stop you from joining -- if you want to join this forum, contribute as a member and don't be an ATS apologist. I can deal with people as other members. I cannot deal with being moderated by staff from a site I've been banned from that aren't mods here. That's all I have to say about that.

gunner
02-26-2008, 10:48 PM
Deny ignorance should be removed from that site, there are so many bullshit threads going over there it is ridiculous. I try to be a respectful member, I got my first warn today for screwing with a 52 page thread that stinks of some kid with too much time on his hand, jerking people around. One of the, I dont have any hard proof on this but.

Ah fuck it who cares, this site is going to be heads and tails above that site in time. I am happy to see John here, I look forward to reading into his stuff and actually having a good conversation without worrying about stupid petty attacks. It is great that if we disagree we can say, your full of shit and heres why, and not worry about that stupid na ah ah, we dont do that here bull shit.

gunner
02-26-2008, 10:55 PM
GN that is right, I really felt that way when djarums was here. I feel that way now posting, wondering if someone at ATS is looking in here and putting me on a naughty list. I dont want to get banned over there, but jesus you cant fucking speak your damn mind, without worrying about some mod with a power trip editing, warning, or banning you.

mojo
02-26-2008, 10:57 PM
Deny ignorance should be removed from that site, there are so many bullshit threads going over there it is ridiculous. I try to be a respectful member, I got my first warn today for screwing with a 52 page thread that stinks of some kid with too much time on his hand, jerking people around. One of the, I dont have any hard proof on this but.

Ah fuck it who cares, this site is going to be heads and tails above that site in time. I am happy to see John here, I look forward to reading into his stuff and actually having a good conversation without worrying about stupid petty attacks. It is great that if we disagree we can say, your full of shit and heres why, and not worry about that stupid na ah ah, we dont do that here bull shit.

Uh uh we dont do that here ya stupid prick.


:dwarf:

gunner
02-26-2008, 11:04 PM
see thats better, if you call me a stupid prick the message sinks in better then some prim and proper bitch taking my post away and telling me.

mojo
02-26-2008, 11:06 PM
see thats better, if you call me a stupid prick the message sinks in better then some prim and proper bitch taking my post away and telling me.

And i say it with the utmost respect and love.

that is love in a platonic friend way, not a guy loves a guy way, not that theres anything wrong with that.

oh shit.

whatever.

gunner
02-27-2008, 01:53 PM
You go from calling me a prick to telling me you love me, you son of a bitch, WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME! :cry: :cry:

Feel free to say whatever you want to me, I have really thick skin, and I know you love me, but you dont have to say it. You had me from you stupid prick :lol:

Ah this site is vary good no? You guys are all great here, I never really felt like I belonged over there, too much nicely telling people they are full of shit. I am pretty blunt, its nice to say what I feel. I have a hard time over yonder, with not cursing and censoring myself. Plus I am in a pissy mood, I have quit chewing, one week without it, and I feel like picking a fight. Probably better to just stay away from there, that warning I got for no fucking reason, is just eating at me.

Bitchkoma
02-29-2008, 02:11 PM
Look what I found on the other site posted by a mod here (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread335760/pg7#pid4062218) in response to someone asking about John Lear.


Thank you for this perfect example to demonstrate what is going on in this thread. You stated that you came to this thread looking for new info on Lear's "return to ATS". He's not gone.

The staff has said so many, many times.

I know.
You didn't see it right?
Completely Understandable.
This is a busy place.

So... if I tell you John Lear is a member of ATS with an active account and his last visit was TODAY Feb 29 (John Lear's Profile) and he is free to post, when and where he likes in the way he likes (within the T&C) will that finally be the end of your enquiry?

Or (like certain people) will you keep badgering the staff for more details and "new info" on his "status regarding ATS" when the question has been answered over and over again?

Can't you see how that would be irritating (and quite frankly trollish behaviour) on your part?


Do you folks think the staff there know any better or have the admins kept them in the dark about the post-ban?

mojo
02-29-2008, 02:16 PM
Look what I found on the other site posted by a mod here (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread335760/pg7#pid4062218) in response to someone asking about John Lear.


Thank you for this perfect example to demonstrate what is going on in this thread. You stated that you came to this thread looking for new info on Lear's "return to ATS". He's not gone.

The staff has said so many, many times.

I know.
You didn't see it right?
Completely Understandable.
This is a busy place.

So... if I tell you John Lear is a member of ATS with an active account and his last visit was TODAY Feb 29 (John Lear's Profile) and he is free to post, when and where he likes in the way he likes (within the T&C) will that finally be the end of your enquiry?

Or (like certain people) will you keep badgering the staff for more details and "new info" on his "status regarding ATS" when the question has been answered over and over again?

Can't you see how that would be irritating (and quite frankly trollish behaviour) on your part?


Do you folks think the staff there know any better or have the admins kept them in the dark about the post-ban?

I think its perfectly reasonable to think that they have lifted the post ban so that it looks like the whole thing is john's fault that he no longer posts there.
Did you notice how many super mods have just jumped into that thread in the past couple of pages, funny shit.

mojo
02-29-2008, 02:51 PM
LOL BK that thread has just been closed down.

Nothing more needs to be said.

johnlear
02-29-2008, 03:51 PM
Linda Howe called me this morning and during the conversaton I mentioned I had been banned at ATS.

Her comment was something to the effect that "arrogance and ignorance was rampant" at ATS.

I told her I thought that they should call the mods over there "TP's" for "Thought Police" because the way it works over there now is that there is an "Authorized Topic" list. It's not published but you can tell if your Topic is not authorized if it disappears soon after it is posted. For instance any discussion of John Lear is not an "Authorized Topic".

Authorized Topics are good for that Topic only and if you stray left or right a picture of Miss Manners will appear with the warning. "We Don't Do That Here". Usually there is no explanation to what was posted or or how it violated the T&C. Its more mysterious that way and tends to keep everybody in line wondering, "What in the heck did I do?"

Warnings are TP power trips (PT's). They are given out for any reason at all. The most hilarious one I ever saw was when Bill Irvine gave Sleeper a warning because Sleeper said he picked his nose. Warnings are also given if your conversation strays 'off topic'. There is no set distance for 'staying On Topic' because is depends on what the Topic is. The general rule is that if you see a WARN next to your name you have strayed too far off topic.

If you wake up one morning and find yourself banned with no comment by Bill or Mark or anybody else it means you should proceed to Amerikan Konspiracy to meet others just like you. And we have a 12 step program to help you get over wallowing in ignorance and arrogance. :)

gunner
02-29-2008, 04:06 PM
You know john it is funny that you posted this, I was just over there and it seems as though threads that deal with your banning have the habit of being closed. The one you posted in at the begining of the month, is closed. They just closed the where is my old friend or whatever it was that mentioned you. It is kind of funny I guess, and being that I frequent sites such as this, I guess it makes my conspiracy alarm go off.

At any rate, it is really good to have you here, and I think that is what gets their panties in a bunch over there.

Yo Mama
02-29-2008, 05:12 PM
Heh. I wasn't as popular as John, but a few threads asking about why I was banned were closed down too.

Interesting, isn't it? When you're inside ATS, it seems all free and happy, but once you're booted and see how they handle your friends grief over it, you end up seeing what a gulag it really is.

Sad.

mojo
03-07-2008, 07:57 PM
Here's a bit of fun (http://realityuncovered.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=16218&sid=f163d247e2c4883359cbf93bd7aff17e)

They must have people trolling around boards all over the net looking for ATS bashers. rofl.

I wondered what happened to Access Denied, the other one not our one.

Bitchkoma
03-07-2008, 08:17 PM
Damn, foo! That's quite funny. But I liked Mark's response on page 1 of that thread concerning the nature of ATS (it being a media company). Honesty. Refreshing, isn't it? :)

mojo
03-07-2008, 08:25 PM
Damn, foo! That's quite funny. But I liked Mark's response on page 1 of that thread concerning the nature of ATS (it being a media company). Honesty. Refreshing, isn't it? :)

Yes indeed media company's are known as Bastions of Free Speech as long as its profitable. ;)

It is then not Free anymore is it. :?

Yo Mama
03-07-2008, 09:50 PM
Ooo! Mark posts there, but not here! We must not be doing enough wrong.

Lexion
03-07-2008, 10:54 PM
Mark is a true work of art.

Befriends in public.

Asks for independent research
in private.

Then "Denies Ignorance".

He's a piece of....art.

Yeah.

Regards,
Lex

JiveTurkey
03-07-2008, 11:23 PM
Linda Howe called me this morning and during the conversaton I mentioned I had been banned at ATS.

Her comment was something to the effect that "arrogance and ignorance was rampant" at ATS.

I told her I thought that they should call the mods over there "TP's" for "Thought Police" because the way it works over there now is that there is an "Authorized Topic" list. It's not published but you can tell if your Topic is not authorized if it disappears soon after it is posted. For instance any discussion of John Lear is not an "Authorized Topic".

Authorized Topics are good for that Topic only and if you stray left or right a picture of Miss Manners will appear with the warning. "We Don't Do That Here". Usually there is no explanation to what was posted or or how it violated the T&C. Its more mysterious that way and tends to keep everybody in line wondering, "What in the heck did I do?"

Warnings are TP power trips (PT's). They are given out for any reason at all. The most hilarious one I ever saw was when Bill Irvine gave Sleeper a warning because Sleeper said he picked his nose. Warnings are also given if your conversation strays 'off topic'. There is no set distance for 'staying On Topic' because is depends on what the Topic is. The general rule is that if you see a WARN next to your name you have strayed too far off topic.

If you wake up one morning and find yourself banned with no comment by Bill or Mark or anybody else it means you should proceed to Amerikan Konspiracy to meet others just like you. And we have a 12 step program to help you get over wallowing in ignorance and arrogance. :)




Nice!



John, get LMH over here dammit! hahahaha




I made a fairly long post in Bill's official "5th of November" thread where I stated that I was all "good and happy" for them for their 10 years but I feared that it was a sign that the "vision" for the site was to become more "mainstream" and "popish". I stated there, in so many words, that I felt ATS would begin a SHARP downhill trend.




I was right.



The 5th of November.

The D.O.D. of ATS.


Fuck it!

Long live AmKon!!!

GhostOfCaptSpaulding
04-07-2008, 05:26 PM
Damn, foo! That's quite funny. But I liked Mark's response on page 1 of that thread concerning the nature of ATS (it being a media company). Honesty. Refreshing, isn't it? :)

QTF!

BTW, thanks for the link, mojo.

mojo
04-07-2008, 07:50 PM
QTF!

BTW, thanks for the link, mojo.

Thats cool, made me giggle.

Besides which, i got annoyed with us being spied on so did a bit of trawling myself.

Google alerts is my friend. ;)

GhostOfCaptSpaulding
04-07-2008, 09:00 PM
Thats cool, made me giggle.

Besides which, i got annoyed with us being spied on so did a bit of trawling myself.

Google alerts is my friend. ;)

Yeah, that post was a real eye opener.

Funny, I ran the word "springer" through Thesaurus.com and this is what came up:


Main Entry: attorney
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: lawyer
Synonyms: advocate, ambulance chaser*, barrister, beagle, beak, counsel, counselor, fixer, front, legal beagle*, legal eagle*, mouthpiece*, mugger, patch, pettifogger, pleader*, proxy, shyster, spieler*, spouter, springer, squeal

mojo
04-07-2008, 09:59 PM
ROFLMAO, damn ambulance chasin, pettyfloggin, shyster sqealin', spouter of..........



hahahahahahahaha.......ohhh fuck.....hahahahahahaha

GhostOfCaptSpaulding
04-07-2008, 10:13 PM
ROFLMAO, damn ambulance chasin, pettyfloggin, shyster sqealin', spouter of..........



hahahahahahahaha.......ohhh fuck.....hahahahahahaha

QFT!!

On a whim I ran "pettifogger" through Dictionary.com:


pettifogger
1564, from petty (q.v.), the second element possibly from obs. Du. focker, from Flem. focken "to cheat," or from cognate M.E. fugger, from Fugger the renowned family of merchants and financiers of 15c.-16c. Augsburg. In Ger., Flem. and Du., the name became a word for "monopolist, rich man, usurer."

"A 'petty Fugger' would mean one who on a small scale practices the dishonourable devices for gain popularly attributed to great financiers; it seems possible that the phrase 'petty fogger of the law,' applied in this sense to some notorious person, may have caught the popular fancy." [O.E.D. first edition, in a rare burst of pure speculation]

However, cf. pettifactor "legal agent who undertakes small cases" (1586), which, though attested slightly later, may be the source of this.

Petty fugger!! heh!

Maybe I should just resign over there before I get banned....lol!

gunner
04-07-2008, 10:37 PM
no dude dont resign, it is a lot funner to do what you can to get banned, believe me.

Yo Mama
04-07-2008, 10:49 PM
We ought to start scoring people's self destructive antics over there.

Gunner, you got a 10!

:lol:

GhostOfCaptSpaulding
04-07-2008, 10:59 PM
no dude dont resign, it is a lot funner to do what you can to get banned, believe me.

Maybe so, but it could be tough; most of the fuckers I used to butt heads with are on the forum that mojo posted a link to earlier.

Maybe that's why it's gotten so boring...over there...

the titan
04-08-2008, 11:24 AM
How did I miss out on gunner gettin banned!? It must have been great though.

Yo Mama
04-08-2008, 11:39 AM
Thurisaz, I think, started an "I Miss MM" thread. Gunner went in there and laid down the trail of crumbs over here in a big way. :lol:

the titan
04-08-2008, 11:56 AM
I'm going to have to see if that thread is still around! I bet it was deleted though.

Dragonfire
04-08-2008, 12:44 PM
Holy shit what a read, uh Starred and Flagged!!!!!

I am conspiracy minded and I want to know why about all things. I used to look up the members pages and look at those who have been banned, and when you could look up individual posts well it was easy to see why past members were banned.

The one thing that is in common, is there is absolutely no discussion about why a member was banned. To each their own I guess, but to those that are into conspiracies, to suppress this information {regarding the individual post function} is almost too much.

Well I'm certainly not conservative or right wing, so my views will conflict with the ptb eventually, but until then I will post on both site, at least will I can.

But really having threads by 13 year olds about catching a alien on their cell phone?? I guess this is what they call entertainment? And the Future?

GhostOfCaptSpaulding
04-08-2008, 03:20 PM
I'm going to have to see if that thread is still around! I bet it was deleted though.

Not deleted, just closed.

And I think altered.

gunner's post just says to google "skeptic diva"

Is that the road map?

gunner
04-08-2008, 04:29 PM
At the time if you googled skeptic diva like the second or third result was amkon, now the first result is the I miss MM thread on BTS. The one for amkon doesnt even show up until the next page now, hmmm.

GhostOfCaptSpaulding
04-08-2008, 05:47 PM
At the time if you googled skeptic diva like the second or third result was amkon, now the first result is the I miss MM thread on BTS. The one for amkon doesnt even show up until the next page now, hmmm.

Yeah I googled it and got that result, first one was the MM thread.

Hmmm, wonder how they do that?

Any chance google is behind the new money over there?

Hmmm

And they banned you for that!?!

That's pretty harsh!

The weird thing was; when I was checking out the thread, even though it says you're banned, it said you were online at the time.

How's that work?

gunner
04-08-2008, 05:56 PM
Who knows how that works, I am not on, I cant get on from this computer. I dont think that got me banned, but it got my name on their list I think.

When I got banned I was on another thread that scientist started, about not being able to discuss drugs. I told them they were promoting ignorance not denying it, went to write another response to pretty much put one more final nail in the coffin, and bam, I couldnt get back in.

GhostOfCaptSpaulding
04-08-2008, 06:04 PM
Buncha tight asses!

Whenever I post to a substance thread, I've begun to include a warning to save the page to their hard drive if they like the info presented, 'cause they ought to know by now, the thread won't be there long.

Geez, I'm glad I found this place...

Yo Mama
04-08-2008, 06:20 PM
Geez, I'm glad I found this place...

You, me and everybody else here.

Now if only we can get the rest of the downtrodden here. Internet Underground Railroad, anybody?

mojo
04-08-2008, 07:30 PM
Buncha tight asses!

Whenever I post to a substance thread, I've begun to include a warning to save the page to their hard drive if they like the info presented, 'cause they ought to know by now, the thread won't be there long.



Is that thread where about 2 pages of posts got deleted. I stasrted a thread about it and springer said that he had accidently deleted them.

i just accepted it at the time but having read what access denied said about his posts getting deletd im not so sure anymore.

I have also saved just about everything ive ever written and some responses as well as u2u's, not just from there but from just about every site ive ever posted on.
yes i am parry nowd.

:lol:

mojo
04-08-2008, 07:52 PM
Ok. This is weird.

I went to find that thread that Thurisaz started about MM.

Heres the link to her threads. LINK (http://www.belowtopsecret.com/forum/profile.php?member=Thurisaz&display=threads), 10th thread down is the "I miss MM" thread.

This is what happens when you click on that link. LINK (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread6688/pg1)

The whole thread has been deleted and replaced with that post by Simon Gray.

If that wasn't so stoopid i would be laughing my ass off.

:ncool:

GhostOfCaptSpaulding
04-08-2008, 08:04 PM
Worked for me earlier...

They're watching, now it's a 404...heh!

Yo Mama
04-08-2008, 08:16 PM
If you google it, and click the google link, you get in.

WTF, that thread was such a danger they posted the T&C instead?

The spies are so busy over here. They must be shitting bricks that so many members are fed up with their gulag.

It is to laugh. Muahahahaha

mojo
04-08-2008, 08:16 PM
hahahahahahaha. Now its funny.

mojo
04-08-2008, 08:19 PM
If you google it, and click the google link, you get in.



not any more. :)

Yo Mama
04-08-2008, 08:21 PM
I can, but I'm not logged in over there. So maybe it's just logged in members that can't link to the links we're putting here.

I want to do an experiment. mojo, Google "threads by MajorMalfunction" and see if you can get into Atheist Chat while logged in.

I wasn't logged in and I managed to, no problem.

I'll give the spies an hour or so to read this post and try it again to see if they've broken the links yet.

GhostOfCaptSpaulding
04-08-2008, 08:21 PM
If you google it, and click the google link, you get in.

WTF, that thread was such a danger they posted the T&C instead?

The spies are so busy over here. They must be shitting bricks that so many members are fed up with their gulag.

It is to laugh. Muahahahaha


Nope, now it's the Simon T&Cs page...how long before it goes 404? lol!

Edit to add: oops mojo beat me to it!

Shit! I "type" too slow...

Yo Mama
04-08-2008, 08:23 PM
Yeah, I'm getting the T&C page too, I just tried again.

My hypothesis about members and non members may be correct.

mojo
04-08-2008, 08:51 PM
Atheist chat is still open but theres really no need to kill that off is there, particularly if a lot of members still have it on their active list, it would look suspicious.
whereas the thusisaz thread probably wont be noticed.

Yo Mama
04-08-2008, 08:57 PM
Someone I won't divulge told me some time ago that he couldn't find Atheist Chat, and thought it had been deleted, which is why I chose that one.

Curiouser and curiouser.

mojo
04-08-2008, 09:20 PM
Something i did fnd while googling.

http://tinwiki.org/wiki/Talk:AboveTopSecret.com

:lol:

Yo Mama
04-08-2008, 09:24 PM
Oh, that is RICH!

I had Valhall on my ignore list because she was such a raving bitch. I couldn't stand her.

gunner
04-08-2008, 09:39 PM
I thought we were just being paranoid about those fuckers over there. It is pretty weird that the thread was there and is now erased and replaced by simons post. Man, this is just great. Do you think we have em running scared? Seriously it might just be coincidence but man it sure seems, a little ironic. If so, then jasn, and all you other guys that make this site go so well be proud, you are doing something right.

mojo
04-08-2008, 09:46 PM
lol, i doubt it but it is pretty fuckin' funny.
there is some bizarre shit out there on the intertubez.
who can say how much of it is crap and how much isn't.
either way it's given me a good giggle for the day.

google is my best friend. haha.

GhostOfCaptSpaulding
04-08-2008, 09:51 PM
Something i did fnd while googling.

http://tinwiki.org/wiki/Talk:AboveTopSecret.com

:lol:

Awesome!

Great link mojo, good monkey!! :D

gunner
04-08-2008, 09:53 PM
yes giggle is good and that is defnitely giving me a good one.

mojo
04-08-2008, 10:34 PM
you ought to see some of the stuff that pops up when you google "netchicken banned ats skepticoverlord".

I havent laughed so much in ages.

heres a taste.

http://xmb.stuffucanuse.com/xmb/viewthr ... 039&page=4 (http://xmb.stuffucanuse.com/xmb/viewthread.php?tid=3039&page=4)

:twisted:

Cobzz
04-12-2008, 12:02 PM
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7339/picture2hr8gq6.gif

Just change User to John Lear. Sorry John. :P

Yo Mama
04-12-2008, 12:03 PM
That gif is teh awsum!!! :lol:

mojo
04-12-2008, 04:15 PM
Ooohh are we allowed to do that to the peasants GN.


Sweet!!

Yo Mama
04-12-2008, 04:43 PM
Not if we want to remain pure and fun. But my evil side got a big giggle out of it.

Remind you of anyone? Hint: I'm the old lady ...

skunk
04-12-2008, 05:19 PM
Is mr lear still around? I have some questions for him.

Yo Mama
04-12-2008, 08:23 PM
It's been about a week since I've seen him. Hey, John, where you at?

skunk
04-12-2008, 10:09 PM
Where you at dog?