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johnlear
02-23-2008, 11:25 PM
NASA describes Venus (based on their spacecraft’s findings and the findings of Russian spacecraft as:

At first glance, if Earth had a twin, it would be Venus. The two planets are similar in size, mass, composition, and distance from the Sun. But there the similarities end. Venus has no ocean. Venus is covered by thick, rapidly spinning clouds that trap surface heat, creating a scorched greenhouse-like world with temperatures hot enough to melt lead and pressure so intense that standing on Venus would feel like the pressure felt 900 meters deep in Earth's oceans. These clouds reflect sunlight in addition to trapping heat. Because Venus reflects so much sunlight, it is usually the brightest planet in the sky.

Sulfur compounds, possibly attributable to volcanic activity, are abundant in Venus' clouds. The corrosive chemistry and dense, moving atmosphere cause significant surface weathering and erosion. Radar images of the surface show wind streaks and sand dunes.

More than 1,000 volcanoes or volcanic centers larger than 20 kilometers (12 miles) in diameter dot the surface of Venus. Volcanic flows have produced long, sinuous channels extending for hundreds of kilometers.

John Lear, however, begs to differ with NASA. Based on information John has accumulated, including data from George Adamski who was afforded a ‘bird’s eye view’ of Venus and several remote viewer friends of John’s he believes Venus is more like this:

(The following are quotes from “Inside The Flying Saucers” by George Adamski):


A beautiful planet similar to earth with seven oceans, all connected by waterways both natural and artificial. Magnificent mountains, some white-topped with snow, some barren and rocky, very similar to earth.

There are many Venusian cities, some large, some small following a circular or oval pattern. The structures are beautiful, with no monotonous lines. Many had domes radiating in prismatic colors. At night the colors cease and the domes become luminous with a soft, yellowish light. There is much uninhabited territory.

People on Venus are very similar to those on earth.

Cars and buses used for transportation vary in size as do those on earth. The only difference is that they appear to ‘glide’ along the surface using an energy system much different from ours.

The beaches on the lakes have sand that is very white and fine like on the finest beaches on earth.

The tropical sections of Venus have vegetation similar to earth but are much lusher because of an atmosphere than is much more moist than earth. The people on Venus rarely see the stars as we do on earth because of the constant cloud cover.

The following is based on information from friends of John’s who are remote viewers:


Venus has a constant cloud cover which is a pale yellow color and the reflection makes the oceans and the lakes yellow in color.

Now, based on NASA’s record of reporting, what sounds more plausible? The Venus described by NASA or the Venus described by John Lear (using George Adamski’s quotes, and descriptions from John’s remote viewer friends)?

Yo Mama
02-23-2008, 11:36 PM
I'm going to have to go with NASA on this one, because I think remote viewing is a bunch of hooey.

JiveTurkey
02-24-2008, 01:28 AM
I'm going to have to go with NASA on this one, because I think remote viewing is a bunch of hooey.


3 or 4 years ago, I would have been right there with ya chica.

However, I now feel almost the exact opposite. I believe that NASA is a bunch of "phooey" and remote viewing could very well be possible.

I personally feel that NASA is an "incompetent front" with the sole purpose of keeping us disinterested.

I believe our "space program" and the amount of knowledge some of "us" possess are far superior to the cluster fucks that NASA is PUBLICLY responsible for.


Jasn

Yo Mama
02-24-2008, 10:18 AM
Even if NASA has fucked up/covered up some stuff, it doesn't automatically make everything they say false.

Until somebody proves remote viewing in double-blind scientific experiments, as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't exist.

I'd be happy to set up an object for some of these "RVers" to describe. It wouldn't be officially scientific, but it would do a lot to convince me, should someone get the details correct.

Bitchkoma
02-24-2008, 10:33 AM
John, why are you referring to yourself in the third person in the opening post?

mojo
02-24-2008, 10:56 AM
I'd be happy to set up an object for some of these "RVers" to describe. It wouldn't be officially scientific, but it would do a lot to convince me, should someone get the details correct.

Your holding a coffee cup thats says "best mum in the world", it has a few chips missing and is predominately white. Your wearing track pants and a sloppy joe.

:D

Yo Mama
02-24-2008, 11:00 AM
Nope!

But I never saw you claim to be an RVer, either, mojo! :lol:

Bitchkoma
03-18-2008, 01:43 AM
Hey I was doing a little light reading on volcanoes and climate change when it occurred to me that the the clouds on Venus are also claimed to be made from sulphuric acid.

Volcanoes emit carbon dioxide and sulphur dioxide here on Earth. The CO2 is a greenhouse gas while the SO2 combines with H2O to form H2SO4. These H2SO4 clouds block heat from the Sun. At least on Earth that's how it works and that's the reason why climate change sceptics arguments on volcanoes releasing CO2 isn't effective; volcanoes also release SO2 that turns into H2SO4 clouds, cooling the planet. In other words volcanic emissions are "balanced".

That's when it struck me that even with massive amounts of CO2 on Venus, shouldn't the also massive quantities of H2SO4 "balance" the situation there? I mean the cloud cover blocks out virtually everything, you can't see through. Plus, wouldn't the long rotational period allow for enough time for heat to escape the dark side?

Something is not adding up here.

johnlear
03-18-2008, 08:25 PM
John, why are you referring to yourself in the third person in the opening post?



Every once in a while I get so impressed with myself I forget I'm him. Sorry. :)

mojo
03-18-2008, 09:01 PM
John, why are you referring to yourself in the third person in the opening post?



Every once in a while I get so impressed with myself I forget I'm him. Sorry. :)

roflmao.

Alessandra
03-19-2008, 11:52 AM
Every once in a while I get so impressed with myself I forget I'm him. Sorry. :)

Hate to be too off topic but...


I just woke up... this is the first post I wake up to... lmmfao :lol: :lol: Go John. lol

JiveTurkey
03-19-2008, 07:41 PM
Every once in a while I get so impressed with myself I forget I'm him. Sorry. :)



F'n Beautiful.



Damn me for not thinking of that response when people told me how full of myself I was during the SimiusDei days.




:P