Uh, hello there...

[Kacen]

So...heard any good jokes lately? *cough* Ehehehehe, it's Kacen.

Yes, Kacen. The guy who had a bipolar wacko episode in General Discussion on ATS in December and got banished by the ATS stalinists without a trace...yeah...I take loads of meds...yeah...I'm also the annoying, hypocritical, stubborn neo-pagan with severe obsessive compulsive disorder... :oops:

So, uh, what you guys up to?

[Yo Mama]

I'm up to nearly 800 posts! :lol:

There's lots of angry here. So you fit right in. Welcome!

[Bitchkoma]

Woohoo! So I got the right email address... I didn't actually check in my U2U inbox... that was too much of a hassle what with only the latest 25 messages being made visible... *grumble, grumble* and they didn't inform us about that sooner...

I googled up your username and found a profile match here (http://forums.ytmnd.com/member.html?u=152) (the avatar was a dead give-away). You might wanna be careful with that. The general had to deal with a cyber-stalker situation.

Anyway, cool, you're here. I'm fucked up and unstable here, too, so it's all good :twisted:

[Kacen]

Hahaha...YTMND...I post more on YTMNSFW...YTMND forums are dead and boring...

Okay, hey guys, going to bed now, hope to post tommorow...but I should tell you I've becoming a harsh critic of revisionist conspiracy theorists now.

[Tetsujin]

Welcome! Awesome to have ya abord!

[Deadflagblues]

You could probably make me a "foe" here too for no specific rhyme or reason. I'm always down for something like that.

[Firestar]

Hello Kacen..been awhile. Hope you are well. Iam Firestar here..
But you know me as AccessDenied.
Welcome to Amkon.

[mojo]

Yo Kacen, great to see you here.

mojo

[Boondock]

hey, i'm bipolar and take loads of meds too.

[Kacen]

So did you all leave ATS together? What happened there while I was gone?



You could probably make me a "foe" here too for no specific rhyme or reason. I'm always down for something like that.

Is it wrong that I have a pet peeve for hypocritical liberal atheists who hate Israel and support Palestine? You don't know what goes on there; I do, from the Israeli point-of-view. I've got friends.

Uh, okay, not to start a political debate immediately...

But uh, how old is this forum and how long has it been up? And if anyone needs help moderating, I could be of service. I was an admin of a forum for most of 2007 until me and a group of other admins/friends left due to the leader of the forum being incompetent...I have experience. I'm merely offering my help.

[mojo]

Uh, i think a political debate would be fine. :D
No ones ever going to agree 100% with someone elses pov, as long as we do it like adults (well mostly).
I have to say i have often aligned myself more with the palestinian people but i rely only on what i hear, see and read in the media and online.
Start a thread i'd be happy to offer my 2c worth. :)

mojo

[Yo Mama]

Kacen, I'm sorry to say, I can't read your posts that color, because my eyes are old and fucked up.

Would you mind using a darker font?

[zysin5]

Hi Kacen! Good to see you here! Welcome my friend!
Our numbers grow every day!
Im proud of this site!

Good work you guys! And agin welcome to the party!

[Kacen]

Uh, i think a political debate would be fine. :D
No ones ever going to agree 100% with someone elses pov, as long as we do it like adults (well mostly).
I have to say i have often aligned myself more with the palestinian people but i rely only on what i hear, see and read in the media and online.
Start a thread i'd be happy to offer my 2c worth. :)

mojo

They are cancer and plagiarists so deserve no protection, or get seconds. They started the conflict first, so if they are oppressed, tough shit. Theres no such thing as a "Palestinian" by the way, it's just an area, not a country. And the Palestinian laws are typical of the laws of places like Saudi Arabia and such and so are their mentalities.

So the priority to sympathize with them should be low to none for any logical individual against theocracies.

[Boondock]

kacen, you really bipolar or you just saying that?
curious cause i am

[Kacen]

I have O.C.D./Bipolar Disorder...both combined...if I do not take anti-anxiety meds when I need them I could go insane. It's very serious for me.

The O.C.D. is the worst aspect, and combined with the bipolar makes for a horrible combination. It's mental torture and causes megalomanic fantasies to deal with hated things I obsess over.

That's how I got banned from ATS...I just let an episode warp my mind and made a thread where the OP post gradually went from a sorrowful description of how my life was going to a genocidal rant.

[Boondock]

i just recently got diagnosed...serious enough to where the doc says i am not responding to the meds and i need to start this other shit. i have to go into a national registry and get weekly blood draws to make sure my white count stays up there.

that don't start till march 18th though....

do you have more manic days/times or more depressed times?

[mojo]

Uh, i think a political debate would be fine. :D
No ones ever going to agree 100% with someone elses pov, as long as we do it like adults (well mostly).
I have to say i have often aligned myself more with the palestinian people but i rely only on what i hear, see and read in the media and online.
Start a thread i'd be happy to offer my 2c worth. :)

mojo

They are cancer and plagiarists so deserve no protection, or get seconds. They started the conflict first, so if they are oppressed, tough shit. Theres no such thing as a "Palestinian" by the way, it's just an area, not a country. And the Palestinian laws are typical of the laws of places like Saudi Arabia and such and so are their mentalities.

So the priority to sympathize with them should be low to none for any logical individual against theocracies.

I guess im not a logical individual then. :D

I dont know much about who started what so i guess i'll have to do some research on that.
But just as a starting point to generalize and call all palestinians a cancer and plagiarists seems to me to be an illogical statement on its own!
I'll get back to you when ive had a chance to read up on the whole conflict.

mojo

[Boondock]

check your pm's kacen

[Kacen]

Uh, i think a political debate would be fine. :D
No ones ever going to agree 100% with someone elses pov, as long as we do it like adults (well mostly).
I have to say i have often aligned myself more with the palestinian people but i rely only on what i hear, see and read in the media and online.
Start a thread i'd be happy to offer my 2c worth. :)

mojo

They are cancer and plagiarists so deserve no protection, or get seconds. They started the conflict first, so if they are oppressed, tough shit. Theres no such thing as a "Palestinian" by the way, it's just an area, not a country. And the Palestinian laws are typical of the laws of places like Saudi Arabia and such and so are their mentalities.

So the priority to sympathize with them should be low to none for any logical individual against theocracies.

I guess im not a logical individual then. :D

I dont know much about who started what so i guess i'll have to do some research on that.
But just as a starting point to generalize and call all palestinians a cancer and plagiarists seems to me to be an illogical statement on its own!
I'll get back to you when ive had a chance to read up on the whole conflict.

mojo

Oh I agree with what people say as in it is fact though personally people don't talk about how bad the Palestinians can be enough.

But yes I know Israel oppresses them and I support such oppression the Palestinians are plagiarists of the Jewish faith being Muslims (and also Christians are plagiarists) so the Israelis should get more rights to that land. Plus the Palestinians/Arabs attacked Israel first in the 1960's and Israel won and gained that land so tough shit.

[Bitchkoma]

Some people say the Jewish faith is a plagiarism of the Zoroastrian faith. Me, I think it's likely that they are all the same faith but differing human interpretation + time + isolation has caused it to "speciate". Kinda like how evolution works. Think about it. Language evolves in pretty much the same way. So does culture. It stands to reason that faith, which has a strong language and cultural component would evolve similarly.

[mojo]

Some people say the Jewish faith is a plagiarism of the Zoroastrian faith. Me, I think it's likely that they are all the same faith but differing human interpretation + time + isolation has caused it to "speciate". Kinda like how evolution works. Think about it. Language evolves in pretty much the same way. So does culture. It stands to reason that faith, which has a strong language and cultural component would evolve similarly.

Both of those religions are fundamentally taken from Ubaidian/Sumer mythology anyway, neither are an original interpretation.
If the conflict is along purely religious grounds, which i dont think is the case, then both Israel and Palestine are fighting over nothing.
We'll have to start a thread up i think, if Kacen doesnt get one up i'll do so when i get home from work.

[Kacen]

Well Zoroastrianism is almost dead and everything previous so they are irrelevent and also they are not in conflict.

The fact that Judaism does not proselytize, and Jews have always respected my beliefs makes me bias towards them and makes me feel they are more worthy of preservation. Christianity and Islam spread around in a cancerous fashion, and as a pagan anything to oppose that spread I feel I must support.

And I sympathize with Jews for being oppressed by the people who just took their religion, tacked stuff on to it, and then oppressed them for not believing in their add-ons.

Do I hate Christians or Muslims? No, but I'm merely prioritizing based on my own paranoid self-preservation.

If the conflict can be resolved peacefully then great, but until then my allegiance is with the Israelis. In Palestine my religion is illegal and in Palestine homosexuals are killed, along with many other Islamic countries, like Saudi Arabia (which the Bush administration hypocritically supports).

[Deadflagblues]

Is it wrong that I have a pet peeve for hypocritical liberal atheists who hate Israel and support Palestine? You don't know what goes on there; I do, from the Israeli point-of-view. I've got friends.

Don't hate me because you along with a grip of people get burned everytime you try and fuck with me. What's the fun in heated discussion if you're going to take every ass kicking personally?

1. Hypocritical Liberal

I don't waiver on any of my beliefs, and taking most of them into consideration, they're more conservative than they are liberal. Even as I've been a registered republican for 2 years now. Not that it matters this day and age anyway.

2. Atheist

Yeah, it's what I am. As I will respect your personal religious beliefs, you should step off and respect mine.

3. "I"ve got friends."

A lot of us who show concern for the situation usually do, as I have friends from both sides of the argument. My ex and best friend had lived in Palestine for the first 13 years of her life. On the other hand, one of my very best friends just finished his two year commitment in Israel. Because your Israeli friends have issues with Palestine, doesn't mean they are right because of their personal relationship with you. Our friends mean a lot to us. Should that dictate what is wrong or right? No. So until you get your head out of your ass and learn to think for yourself using critical thinking and reasoning, keep your shit talk to yourself.

[Kacen]

Don't hate me because you along with a grip of people get burned everytime you try and fuck with me. What's the fun in heated discussion if you're going to take every ass kicking personally?

That was irrelevant.


1. Hypocritical Liberal

I don't waiver on any of my beliefs, and taking most of them into consideration, they're more conservative than they are liberal. Even as I've been a registered republican for 2 years now. Not that it matters this day and age anyway.

Hypocritical as your liberal on social issues and an atheist and support people who have Islamic law and kill homosexuals (Palestine) over a liberal country (Israel).


2. Atheist

Yeah, it's what I am. As I will respect your personal religious beliefs, you should step off and respect mine.

The fact you are an atheist by itself as a belief does not bother me.

[Deadflagblues]

I'm "liberal" because I think the stripping away of Palestinian land and livelihood to make way for a country that didn't even exist or have any part of world war two is injust and unfair?

No.. Really.. That makes perfect sense.

And if my beliefs didn't have anything to do with why you have ill feelings towards me, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't have brought that up.

[Kacen]

No what I'm saying is liberals should support the extermination of Palestinians because Palestinians are conservative and believe in theocracy.

Oh but liberals tend to support anyone who's oppressed...

Also whatever political party you are I believe a true cultural religion has the right to take out plagiarists that threaten their existance.

Christianity/Islam - Cancerous plague religions.

Sorry for being blunt, but I'm not the type to hide my opinions.

Meh, I pursue my own agenda, and anyone who does anything that helps move my agenda along I support, so I guess I shouldn't apply my logic to anyone else. Most people find it genocidal, megalomanic, and psychopathic. XP

Call it what you will, that is the pre-conceived reason why I support Zionism. I guess maybe that's horrific...oh well, tough shit.

[mojo]

[quote="Kacen"]No what I'm saying is liberals should support the extermination of Palestinians because Palestinians are conservative and believe in theocracy.

[quote]

bold's mine.

I don't generally choose side's but i find that sort of attitude disgusting. sorry.
but hey i'm just an atheist that believes that we all have a right to exist.
i was under the impression that pagan's had a similar philosophy, or maybe you just pretend to be a pagan?

I had thought that we could have an intelligent debate/argument/discussion on the Israeli/palestinian conflict but that is so obviously not the case if you believe that anyone of a certain race should be exterminated.
just curious, would you pull the trigger of a gun held to a 2 year old palestinian childs head or are you full of shit?

whats even funnier is that DFB and i are usually polar opposites in our beliefs.

ah well you live and learn.

[Kacen]

It's not racial it's religious...it just happens to by tied together in this case.

It's prioritization...and I really don't care about the liberal Muslims/Christians in the world, they can stay, since I do not categorize them as true Christians/Muslims.

And pagans don't have to be anything, it's a religion with no dogma.