Was JKF Assassinated by Masons? Or CIA?

[zysin5]

The older I get the more this makes sense to me! As a young man growing up in the USA I was to brainwashed into thinking our leaders had good hearts of men..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gpmi7dBet0c

I had always heard my family talking about the day he was shot. And how it affected them..
They went on to tell me he was killed by the CIA. I did not understand this untill I was about 20 years of age..
Thats when the internet came out in full force.. Yep some of you youngsters have it lucky.. Back when I was a teenager, you had to go out and find books, and read them!
Which I did.. But didnt have the key words to find the right books.
Most my branches kept many books off the shelf for this very reason.

Now today I stand here shocked.. And in awe that "they" can get away with this..
So who are "they". Well I have come to the conclusion that they are bigger and more secert than we will ever fully know.

Most masons stand for the good will of man.. And in their hearts are doing the right thing.. This is not about right or wrong..

This is about the upper levels.. The tip of the pyrimd. They control both sides to the problem.. And have become so secert, that even those who are in the upper levels, know nothing..
Thats how they keep it clean.. Fool the masses into feeling what they are doing is right, when all along, the main agenda is unclear to those grunts..

Even 33rd degree Masons are not keen on this knoweldge.. It goes further than 33rd degree..

Not even Duba Bush knows fully.. He feels what he is doing is right.
He is brainwashed like the rest of us.. AT one time, I can say most of us went threw this. Its like a rollar coaster!


My main question is this..
Was JFK a Free Mason? I have not been able to find any valid information saying he was.. Only that his murder had a role in the angenda of these powerful groups.. Top side..



JFK - Secrecy is Repugnant (1961 Speech)


The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know.

But I do ask every publisher, every editor, and every newsman in the nation to reexamine his own standards, and to recognize the nature of our country's peril. In time of war, the government and the press have customarily joined in an effort based largely on self-discipline, to prevent unauthorized disclosures to the enemy. In time of "clear and present danger," the courts have held that even the privileged rights of the First Amendment must yield to the public's need for national security.

[Boondock]

imo from what i have read and my speculation, he was bumped off by the mafia but with the go ahead and help from the cia.

sam giancana helped to get his ass into office and the promise was made that there would not be any serious leaning on organized crime.....jfk gets into office and the first thing he and his brother do is start going after the mob.
this is also the time when bush senior is in the cia, the bay of pigs is going on and money is lining pockets....

it just has to be....there is no fucking way on this earth that oswald did this. he 'may' have fired a shot or played some indiscriminate role but i believe that he was a patsy just like he claimed to be. then jack ruby shooting him on national tv.....thats how conspiracies work..
as soon as you have it figured, you're wrong....

what about when johnson was sworn in on airforce one...jackie O REFUSED to take off her blood covered clothes and made the statement, 'i want you to see what THEY did to him'...

that statement says a lot.

this will go down as the greatest CT ever and we will never know the full truth. far too much time has passed. records get 'lost' and shifted around...

that is my take on it anyway

[Oblivion]

PaintedMan, i have to agree with everything you said. that is my take on it also.

in a nutshell, it was kind of a "shut the hell up about our secret" (bay of pigs) and we'll take care of your problem (jfk)

two huge problems for two huge groups, both solved with a shake of the hand, so to speak.

thats why there was more than one shooter.

oswald was a fool, and setup to be like one. and they had an extra shooter from the wall behind the grassy knoll who was guarantee'd to make the hit work.
theres video of a m/cycle cop dropping his bike and running with many civilians toward that area to chase someone down, while others lay on the grass in that area hiding for their lives.
the few brave souls who ran toward the wall in chase showed us part of the truth. (2nd shooter was real)


worst case for oswald is he took a pot shot and got their attention away from the real shooter, although some witness's said he was in the cafeteria at the time. either way he was a "plant".
thats why ruby took him down, because oswald was crying out stuff like "im just a patsy" when taken away in cuffs infront of the tv crews.

definately the biggest conspiracy ever, and you have to wonder if they come out and told us the truth would we be able to beleive their word after all these years?
there would be ppl out there on other sites who'd tear the truth apart like a pack of wild dogs without ever realising it WAS the truth, they'd take it as disinfo

[Oblivion]

also, the poll is pretty misleading.


"was jfk assassinated"

well he didnt die peacefully in his sleep, i'd say having a few holes torn through you with a bit of lead shot constitutes assassination, wouldnt you?

imo, the poll should have read:

was jfk assassinated by:

1) oswald
2) cia
3) masons
4) mafia
5) whatever other options there be.

was is masons? no, people just fear them because they fear the unknown and apparent secrecy of it.

[mojo]

Id have tpo agree with paintedman and oblivion, its the ONLY scenario that makes any kind of sense. I came across a great website with a lot of information on thios at one time but seem to have lost the link. I'll see if i cant find it for you guy's it really opened my eyes when i went through the evidence this guy had gathered.

[Boondock]

i think i read somewhere that over on the grassy knoll, well, on the wall on the knoll what we see is pepsi or coke bottles....
i mean the shit they throw at us and expect us to believe is just insane...

i really have a hard time with anyone that thinks oswald did this by himself....i am even in speculation if he took a shot.

i really do think he was a patsy...maybe he had a small role like putting the rifle at the depository cause he worked there but even that seems a stretch. people saw him drinking a coke and walking pretty calm like...
if you are in on a hit on the prez that is about to calm down, you're not gonna be mr calm.....not unless you are a 'hitter' which oswald was not....

also, the jack ruby incident seals the deal for me...i mean that is awfully fucking convenient is it not?

the pathologist that worked on jfk was a gnub. you'd think they'd have the raddest doc working on him but no..it was rushed.
johnson was sworn in before the blood coagulated on kennedy....

if you look at the zaepruder(sp) film jackie o looks like she tries to get the hell out of the car as if something is coming from the front..

they wiped the limo down asap so there was no more evidence...they tried to get jackie to take off her clothes and she refused and made that quote...
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this is the greatest conspiracy we know and sadly even though i think we all 'know' the truth, we will never KNOW the truth you know....
i know here within some years the records are supposed to be released but you know it is going to be like everything else....all the good shit is going to be blacked out....

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i bought an fbi archive on the irish republican army and when i got it and popped it in the pc, most of the shit was blacked out by the federalis...thats just how a conspiracy works....
i mean look how long it has been and we are still talking about it.

[Oblivion]

if you look at the zaepruder(sp) film jackie o looks like she tries to get the hell out of the car as if something is coming from the front..


she was grabbing a piece of jfk's skull that was blown off.

thats why she reaches back quickly after the shot then gets back in the car.

she apparently had it cupped in both hands and presented it to the doctor upon arrival at hospital.

[Boondock]

if you look at the zaepruder(sp) film jackie o looks like she tries to get the hell out of the car as if something is coming from the front..


she was grabbing a piece of jfk's skull that was blown off.

thats why she reaches back quickly after the shot then gets back in the car.

she apparently had it cupped in both hands and presented it to the doctor upon arrival at hospital.

i'd have to watch the film again...i know she grabbed a part of his dome but i didn't think it was when she appeared to try to hop out the back of the car......i am probably wrong....i concede

[zysin5]

Thanks for the info on that little bit painted man!! I didnt know about the gangster connection.. Helps make sense of that a bit more..
Sorry bout the poll there.. It was late, and my mind was not all there at the time:p

[Boondock]

Thanks for the info on that little bit painted man!! I didnt know about the gangster connection.. Helps make sense of that a bit more..
Sorry bout the poll there.. It was late, and my mind was not all there at the time:p

sam giancana was the chicago boss at the time....jack ruby was not in the mafia but he was connected to em...

[Boondock]

the zapruder film...regular speed, then slo mo, then close up....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E66__vymfPA

sure looks like he got tagged from the front thats for sure

[Tetsujin]

I have a feeling LBJ had a hand in it along with the CIA. JFK was never a brother Mason, but he was a member of the KoC. The masonic connection IMO is total BS. In masonry there is no Higher degree then the 3rd degree of Master Mason, all other degrees hold no power with in the blue lodge. I do not know for a fact that there is no inner circle of powerful members, but I do feel in my heart and from experiances with borthers of the 33° of the Scottish Rite that we are nothing more then a boys club, like the Elks or Fight Club (with out the terrorist stuffs). :lol:

[Boondock]

i really am in the dark about the masons....i don't know much, well, anything about it/them

[johnlear]

My opinion is that JFK was assassinated by an Israeli/Mossad hit team aided by members of the CIA. This was not a CIA operation as such.

JFK was assassinated because he insisted on the inspection of Dimona which was Israel's secret nuclear bomb facility.

Israel's Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion who hated Kennedy for Kennedy's stand on Dimona inspections ordered the assassination in the summer of 1963 and resigned shortly thereafter.

James Jesus Angleton who was then CIA's Director of Foreign Intelligence was CIA's Rome Chief of Station in 1947 when Israel became a state.

Angleton was ordered to Israel to help MI6 (England's Foreign Intelligence Service) to help Israel form their own secret service which became 'Mossad' (By deception we do war.)

Angleton formed a very close relationship with Mossad and, in fact, became their 'mole' in the CIA. Mossad passed many secrets given them by Angleton to Russia.

Angleton was known throughout his career for his relentless search for a Russian mole within the CIA. Angleton, in fact, was the mole and was fired in the early 70's by then CIA Director William Colby.

There were several Corsican sharpshooters who did the actual shooting in Dealey Plaza.

Angleton 'greased the skids' for the getaway of the sharpshooters and focused the attention for the hit on Lee Harvey Oswald who had nothing to do with it.

After the assassination President Johnson dropped any attempt to renew investigations on Dimona.

Over the years the assassination investigation has focused on the Mob, Castro and many others.

There have been several 'death bed' confessions implicating everybody except Israel. They have all been false and designed to lead away from the truth.

For a detailed examination of the JFK assassination please read:

"Final Judgment" by Michael Collins Piper (Sixth Edition Copyright 2004) published by American Free Press, Washington, D.C. Library of Congress Control Number 2003096643 ISBN: 0-9745484-0-5.

The book has 663 pages of the most thorough investigation of the JFK assassination I have ever read. Piper covers every single theory you have ever heard of and tells how each fits into the real story.

Have a nice day. :)

[JiveTurkey]

My opinion is that JFK was assassinated by an Israeli/Mossad hit team aided by members of the CIA. This was not a CIA operation as such.

JFK was assassinated because he insisted on the inspection of Dimona which was Israel's secret nuclear bomb facility.

Israel's Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion who hated Kennedy for Kennedy's stand on Dimona inspections ordered the assassination in the summer of 1963 and resigned shortly thereafter.

James Jesus Angleton who was then CIA's Director of Foreign Intelligence was CIA's Rome Chief of Station in 1947 when Israel became a state.

Angleton was ordered to Israel to help MI6 (England's Foreign Intelligence Service) to help Israel form their own secret service which became 'Mossad' (By deception we do war.)

Angleton formed a very close relationship with Mossad and, in fact, became their 'mole' in the CIA. Mossad passed many secrets given them by Angleton to Russia.

Angleton was known throughout his career for his relentless search for a Russian mole within the CIA. Angleton, in fact, was the mole and was fired in the early 70's by then CIA Director William Colby.

There were several Corsican sharpshooters who did the actual shooting in Dealey Plaza.

Angleton 'greased the skids' for the getaway of the sharpshooters and focused the attention for the hit on Lee Harvey Oswald who had nothing to do with it.

After the assassination President Johnson dropped any attempt to renew investigations on Dimona.

Over the years the assassination investigation has focused on the Mob, Castro and many others.

There have been several 'death bed' confessions implicating everybody except Israel. They have all been false and designed to lead away from the truth.

For a detailed examination of the JFK assassination please read:

"Final Judgment" by Michael Collins Piper (Sixth Edition Copyright 2004) published by American Free Press, Washington, D.C. Library of Congress Control Number 2003096643 ISBN: 0-9745484-0-5.

The book has 663 pages of the most thorough investigation of the JFK assassination I have ever read. Piper covers every single theory you have ever heard of and tells how each fits into the real story.

Have a nice day. :)


I've heard about the corsican assassins, if I remember correctly Lucien Sarti was fingered as the "grassy knoll" shooter.

Though, Christian David was the one who initially got "that ball rolling", so this alone leaves one to be a bit suspicious.


I definitely need to get out and get that book. I don't believe my library has it, unfortunately.


Jasn

[Firestar]

I just bought the book "MORTAL ERROR" The Shot that Killed JFK.
has anyone else here read it?