The Mystery of Seven.

[mojo]

The mystical number Seven.

The number seven has a deep and rich history for many ancient civilizations and cultures.
Heres a list i've compiled, its not definitive so feel free to add any you think i've missed.

Apkallu (http://www.mesopotamia.co.uk/gods/explore/apkgrif.html)


Babylonian tradition says that there were seven Apkallu who lived at the beginning of time before the flood. They were sent by the god Ea to teach wisdom to humans.
Really a Sumerian tale, Akkadian, Assyrian and Babylonian all use a Sumerian template for their beliefs.

Seven sages of Greece (http://www.livius.org/se-sg/7sages/seven_sages.html)


The seven sages: a group of semi-legendary wise people from the Archaic age, often regarded as the founders of Greek philosophy.
The idea that there had once been seven extraordinary wise people was probably introduced in the west from Babylon, where the seven apkallû were believed to have lived before the Great Flood. The first European to refer to a similar, yet less mythological tradition is the Athenian philosopher Plato

Not the first time Plato uses the number seven, i'll get to that later.

The Seven Sages of the Bamboo Grove (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Sages_of_the_Bamboo_Grove)


were a group of Chinese Taoist Qingtan scholars, writers, and musicians who came together in the bloody 3rd century CE. Later it has been determined that the group is mostly fictitious; although the individual members all probably have existed

Saptarishi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saptarishi) is linked to Ursa Major (the Big Dipper) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursa_Major).


are the seven rishis who are extolled at many places in the Vedas and other Hindu literature. The Vedas never actually enumerate these rishis by name, though later texts do so. They are regarded in the Vedas as the patriarchs of the Vedic religion. The Big Dipper is also named as Saptarshi.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiades_(mythology) (the Seven Sisters)


were the seven daughters of the titan Atlas and the sea-nymph Pleione born on Mount Cyllene. They are the sisters of Calypso, Hyas, the Hyades, and the Hesperides. The Pleiades were nymphs in the train of Artemis, and together with the seven Hyades were called the Atlantides, Dodonides, or Nysiades, nursemaids and teachers to the infant Bacchus.

the Pleiades are obviously well known star cluster and many cultures have a similar mythology relating to them. Australian Aborigines, Native Americans, Japanese, African and so on, there probably hasn't been a culture that hasnt at some point inserted the pleiades into their belief system.

Seven Wonders of the Ancient World (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Wonders_of_the_Ancient_World)


The Seven Wonders of the World (or the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World) is a widely-known list of seven remarkable manmade constructions of classical antiquity. It was based on guide-books popular among Hellenic (Greek) sight-seers and only includes works located around the Mediterranean rim. Later lists include those for the Medieval World and the Modern World. The number seven was chosen because the Greeks believed it to be magical

The Seven Hills of Rome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_hills_of_Rome)


Initially and traditionally, the seven hills were occupied by small settlements and not grouped or recognized as a city called "Rome". The denizens of the seven hills began to participate in a series of religious games which started to bond the groups together. The city of Rome thus came into being as these separate settlements acted as a group, draining the marshy valleys between them and turning them into markets and fora.

www.earthmatrix.com, (Ancient Pi) (http://www.earthmatrix.com/ancient/pi.htm)


The significance of seven and its reciprocal becomes obvious throughout the historically significant numbers/fractals. Even the obvious relationship, of the 364c day-count of ancient Mesoamerica, which was employed for computations, reveals a direct basis of seven: 364 / 7 = 52. Immediately, one will recognize the 52c that is so well-known in ancient Mesoamerica as the calendar round (52 years times 365 days = 18980 days; and 52 years times 360 days = 18720! days). And, the ancient kemi appear to have employed a 54c in its place: 7 times 54 = 378 (2 x 378 = 756; or, 7 x 108 = 756). No matter where one turns, the number seven and its reciprocal make their appearance. The reasoning behind this procedure may be rather obvious, although we have not discerned it previously.

And as Plato related Atlantis existed of 7 islands.
For according to them, there were seven islands in that sea in their time, sacred to Persephone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantis)

Is there a common thread or merely coincidence that the number 7 appears so regularly as an important number in ancient beliefs?

Here's some others to ponder, the seven deadly sins, seven days in a week, seven gates of hell (another Sumerian analogy), 7 is the number most likely to occur when rolling 2 six sided dice.
I have bucket loads more but i'll leave some for you to discover yourself.. :D

[mojo]

I had been saving this thread for the other place for awhile now but since the last round of moderators the forum that i would have placed this it would have been a total waste. The logical thinkers in that forum are going to be warned out of existence in that forum shortly i fear or derailed completely whenever they attempt to post critical thinking. It has started already in one particular thread.

Anyway,

Another Sumerian concept related to 7. The day of rest, Sunday is a Sumerian concept, not a christian one, as with most things religious it was borrowed from even older cultures and bastardized.

www.users.globalnet.co.uk (http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~loxias/week.htm)


Sargon I, King of Akkad, having conquered Ur and the other cities of Sumeria, then instituted a seven-day week, the first to be recorded. Ur was probably using weeks, less formally, long before Sargon came marching in. The Sumerians were great innovators in matters of time.It is to them, ultimately, that we owe not only the week but also the 60-minute hour. Such things came easily to people who based their maths not on a decimal system but on a sexagesimal one.
Why were these clever chaps, who went for 60 because it is divisible by 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15, 20 and 30, fascinated by stubbornly indivisible seven? In ancient Egypt and ancient China, “weeks� of ten days were long in use—much more understandable, as people have ten fingers to count on, not seven


For seven days and seven nights Enkidu was erect and coupled with Shamhat. In spite of all that, Ur's seventh day was not holy. On the contrary, it represented danger and darkness. It was risky to do anything at such a time. So it became a day of rest.

:shock: i'd be resting too.

Seven Seas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Seas)


Medieval European and Arabic literature often spoke of the Seven Seas. Which seven seas are intended depends on the context. "Seven Seas" was a commonplace phrase in many ancient literatures before it was taken up by the Greeks and Romans; it appears in a translation of one of Enheduanna's hymns to Inanna (Hymn 8), written about 2300 BC in Sumer.[1] The number seven has ancient magic of its own in many traditions, informing many groupings of seven. "Seven" as an indefinite number remains for a long time synonymous with "several", as in the Greek Seven Seas.[2] In Greek and Western culture, the "seven" seas were arbitrary and changed over time, varying depending upon the part of the world and the period of time. However, they were usually seven out of the following list of eleven bodies of water:

Once again a Sumerian connection. See where i'm going with this. :)

There is a truth that im hoping will be revealed as this thread develops, lets see if you can beat me to the punch line.

[Hazelnut]

There is a truth that im hoping will be revealed as this thread develops, lets see if you can beat me to the punch line.

You are a very patient man. ;)

[mojo]

You are a very patient man. ;)

actually just very forgetful......now i'm going to have to find all my research from back then.....sucks.

sorta wish it had been apecied now!! :)

[Cogburn]

Strictly speaking, to determine if the number seven has any special or unique significance would require equal research into the occurrence of the other numbers between 0 and 9.

You could then build a comparison between all ten digits to answer if the number seven is truly more significant historically than other numbers.

However... you could narrow things down a bit by refining the question. Such as, "Does the fact the number seven appears in more spiritual or religious connotations across cultures have any significant meaning?"

;)

[mojo]

don't fuckin confuse me even more mate!!


ooohhhh.....look 7 words in that sentence!!!

[FancyFree]

The mystical number Seven.

The number seven has a deep and rich history for many ancient civilizations and cultures.
Heres a list i've compiled, its not definitive so feel free to add any you think i've missed.

Apkallu (http://www.mesopotamia.co.uk/gods/explore/apkgrif.html)


Really a Sumerian tale, Akkadian, Assyrian and Babylonian all use a Sumerian template for their beliefs.

Seven sages of Greece (http://www.livius.org/se-sg/7sages/seven_sages.html)



Not the first time Plato uses the number seven, i'll get to that later.

The Seven Sages of the Bamboo Grove (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Sages_of_the_Bamboo_Grove)



Saptarishi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saptarishi) is linked to Ursa Major (the Big Dipper) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursa_Major).



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiades_(mythology) (the Seven Sisters)



the Pleiades are obviously well known star cluster and many cultures have a similar mythology relating to them. Australian Aborigines, Native Americans, Japanese, African and so on, there probably hasn't been a culture that hasnt at some point inserted the pleiades into their belief system.

Seven Wonders of the Ancient World (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Wonders_of_the_Ancient_World)



The Seven Hills of Rome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_hills_of_Rome)



www.earthmatrix.com, (Ancient Pi) (http://www.earthmatrix.com/ancient/pi.htm)



And as Plato related Atlantis existed of 7 islands.
For according to them, there were seven islands in that sea in their time, sacred to Persephone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantis)

Is there a common thread or merely coincidence that the number 7 appears so regularly as an important number in ancient beliefs?

Here's some others to ponder, the seven deadly sins, seven days in a week, seven gates of hell (another Sumerian analogy), 7 is the number most likely to occur when rolling 2 six sided dice.
I have bucket loads more but i'll leave some for you to discover yourself.. :D

Tell us MORE. This is good stuff!

[FancyFree]

7 seas, 7th heaven, 7/11. lolol

[mojo]

Tell us MORE. This is good stuff!

i'd like to have sex seven times right now.

[FancyFree]

i'd like to have sex seven times right now.

7 virgins FTW! :p

[mojo]

7 virgins FTW! :p

lol, no fucking virgins around these parts, trust me on that.




The number seven was apparently the Egyptian symbol of such ideas as perfection, effectiveness, and completeness.
Examples
Seven thousand barrels of red beer were used to trick Sekhmet (http://amkon.net/wiki/Sekhmet) out of killing. [18] (file://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_in_Egyptian_mythology/lendnote_beer)
In her search for her husband’s pieces, the goddess Isis (http://amkon.net/wiki/Isis) was guarded by seven scorpions. [19] (file://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_in_Egyptian_mythology/lendnote_scorpions)
A legendary famine lasted seven years. [20] (file://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_in_Egyptian_mythology/lendnote_famine)
The lowest amount that the Nile (http://amkon.net/wiki/Nile_river) flooded to solve the famine was seven cubits. The highest was four times seven (28) cubits. [21] (file://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_in_Egyptian_mythology/lendnote_flood)
A doomed prince found a tower seventy (ten times seven) cubits high with seventy (ten times seven) windows. [22] (file://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_in_Egyptian_mythology/lendnote_tower)
Set tore the god Osiris (http://amkon.net/wiki/Osiris)’ body into fourteen pieces: seven each for the two regions of Upper and Lower Egypt (http://amkon.net/wiki/Egypt). [23] (file://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_in_Egyptian_mythology/lendnote_torn)
The Pool (http://amkon.net/wiki/Egyptian_pool) symbol, representing water (http://amkon.net/wiki/Water), contains seven zigzag lines.[24] (file://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_in_Egyptian_mythology/lendnote_pool)
The Gold (http://amkon.net/wiki/Nebu) symbol has seven spines on its underside.[25] (file://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_in_Egyptian_mythology/lendnote_gold)

　

Seven Last Words The Seven Last Words are the last utterance of Christ on the cross... The words are "My God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...recorded in Mark 15:34, and Matt. 27:46. Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase Origins (Hendrickson, 1987)


http://towerweb.net/alt-lib/seven.shtml
　

[FancyFree]

lol, no fucking virgins around these parts, trust me on that.




You got to them all already, did ya? lol :D

　


http://towerweb.net/alt-lib/seven.shtml
　

[FancyFree]

Coincidence? I think not.

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[guy]

The Lord claims seven for his own number numerous times

[TheSyndicate]

Jj_vCNevsfY

[Red Skare]

what about 7 starring kevin spacey.
And let us not forget
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[DocVelocity]

Really... What about seven chipmunks twirlin' on a branch?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeHVYuRnIjY

— Doc Velocity

[TheSyndicate]

Also, Prince.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnN2OQWQxkY

He likes 7, too.

[Pam]

Hey coldjoint................ this ones for mojo ;)

[Snow Crash]

:popcorn:

[mojo]

Hey coldjoint................ this ones for mojo ;)

thanks gorgeous. :)

[Pam]

You're welcome :D

WTF this not good enough for the spambomb?

Illuminati material to the fullest!

[Watchdog]

Good reading, thanx for sharing

[Moose]

The Jeebuz book, I mean teh book of Stevie, the Book of Revelation the number SEVEN is used throughout. There are SEVEN churches, SEVEN Spirits, SEVEN stars, SEVEN seals, SEVEN trumpets, SEVEN vials, SEVEN personages, SEVEN dooms, and SEVEN new things. SEVEN symbolizes Spiritual Perfection. All of life revolves around this number. SEVEN is used over 700 times in the Bible. It is used 54 times in the Book of Revelation.

[Moose]

Their Gawd took the perfect world number FOUR and added to it the perfect divine number, THREE, and got SEVEN, the most sacred number to the Hebrews.

[Pam]

I just watched a program on the History channel not long ago about who built and designed the Statue of Liberty and how often the number 7 is represented throughout the statue. It was amazing.... you got to wonder if that gift was a hex of some sort.

[skunk]

The Jeebuz book, I mean teh book of Stevie

Blessed be his name.

[Pam]

Found info on the show I saw..... hahahahahaha it first aired one year ago, I'm a little slow I guess :D

Link: http://articles.mibba.com/History/4076/The-Statue-of-Liberty-and-the-Illuminati


He brings up a picture of the statues head and notes the seven spikes on the crown. On the crown is a series of 25 windows, 2+5 =7. He then heads down to the base where there are four Greek columns on each side, totaling 16 columns, 1+6=7. On the torch there are a series of raised portions that total the number 16. The statue stands at 1,813 inches, 1813÷7=259, 2+5+9=16 and 1+6=7. Without that extra inch the number is not divisible by seven and it does not break down into seven.

Siegel says, “If you know about number symbolism you know that the number 7 is one of the most sacred, divine numbers. The number 7 has such a profound influence on society that even today our lives are run by it. Seven days of the week, seven colors of the rainbow, seven seas, seven continents, seven wonders of the ancient world... In India they speak of the seven sages, in Buddhism as soon as Buddha was born he walked seven steps, in Christianity there are seven virtues and seven sins. Even in the Islamic religion there are seven heavens and seven gates to hell.“

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

My cock is 7 inches, plus 2.

[BE2]

Forget the seven. Check out The Nine for a real ride...


The Council of Nine



http://www.forteantimes.com/artic/126/nine.html

One New Age channeling cult, above all the rest, has had a huge - very disturbing influence on hundreds of thousands of devotees worldwide. Known as 'The Nine', its disciples include cutting edge scientists, multi-millionaire industrialists and leading politicians. This exclusive extract based on The Startgate Conspiracy by Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince looks at the sinister origins of The Nine

I am the beginning. I am the end. I am the emissary. But the original time I was on the Planet Earth was 34,000 of your years ago. I am the balance. And when I say "I" - I mean because I am an emissary for The Nine. It is not I , but it is the group.We are nine principles of the Universe, yet together we are one.

The declaration above is typical of the channelled pronouncements of the Council of Nine - or just 'The Nine'. They contain all the usual New Age ingredients of grandiose statements, shaky grammar and unprovable predictions. But unlike all the other channelling cults, that of The Nine has serious clout. Perhaps the reason for this is that they claim to be the Ennead, or the nine major gods of ancient Egypt (see panel). Or could there be another reason, one that owes more to The X-Files than the Pyramid Texts? Although The Nine may appear to be quintessentially a modern phenomenon, our research uncovered its truly astonishing pedigree. In fact, the story begins nearly 50 years ago, in a private research laboratory in Glen Cove, Maine, called the Round Table Foundation, run by a medical doctor named Andrija Puharich (also known as Henry K Puharich).Set up in 1948 to research the paranormal, among the noted psychics studied at the Foundation were the famous Irish medium Eileen Garrett and the Dutch clairvoyant Peter Hurkos (Pieter van de Hirk).Prominent members included the influential philosopher and inventor Arthur M Young and the socialite Alice Bouverie (née Astor).



In December 1952, Puharich brought into his laboratory an Indian mystic named Dr D G Vinod, who began to channel The Nine or 'the Nine Principles'. In the months before Vinod returned to India, a group met regularly to hear The Nine's channelled wisdom. Never known for their modesty, The Nine proclaimed themselves to be God, stating "God is nobody else than we together, the Nine Principles of God."
Three years later, there appeared to be independent confirmation of their existence. In Mexico, Puharich and Young met Charles and Lillian Laughead, former Christian missionaries who were by then prominent in the burgeoning UFO contactee movement. (For a description of their involvement in the Dorothy Martin circle, see Jerome Clark's 'When Prophecy Failed' in FT117.) Back in the States a few weeks later, Puharich received a letter from the Laugheads containing messages received by their group's channeller. This message also claimed to come from the Nine Principles, even - amazingly - including references to the earlier communications transmitted through Dr Vinod. Could The Nine possibly be for real?

Perhaps the answer is embedded in the career of Puharich himself. After disbanding the Round Table Foundation in 1958, he worked for 10 years as an inventor of medical devices and achieved international recognition as a parapsychologist, most famously studying the Brazilian psychic surgeon, Arigo (José Pedro de Freitas). But all that was to pale into insignificance because, in 1971, Puharich discovered Uri Geller.

At their first meetings in Tel Aviv in 1971, Puharich hypnotised Geller in an attempt to find out where his abilities came from. As a result, the young Israeli started to channel 'Spectra' - an entity which claimed to be a conscious super-computer aboard a spaceship. However, Puharich suggested to him that there might be a connection with the Nine Principles, and Spectra readily agreed that there was. The Nine claimed that they had programmed Geller with his powers as a young child.

Through Geller, The Nine alerted Puharich to his life's mission, which was to use Geller's talents to alert the world to an imminent mass landing of spaceships that would bring representatives of The Nine. However, Geller - by now an international psychic superstar - bowed out in 1973 and has resolutely turned his back on The Nine ever since. Puharich had to find other channels. He joined up with aristocratic former racing driver Sir John Whitmore and Florida-based psychic and healer Phyllis Schlemmer. They found a new channeller - a Daytona cook known to history only by the pseudonym 'Bobby Horne' - who lived to regret his dealings with The Nine. Driven to the brink of suicide by their constant demands, he too dropped out of the scene - his despair being dismissed by Whitmore as "signs of instability". After this, Phyllis Schlemmer was appointed the authorised spokesperson for the entity - known simply as 'Tom' - who represented The Nine.

Puharich, Whitmore and Schlemmer then set up Lab Nine at Puharich's estate in Ossining, New York. The Nine's disciples included multi-millionaire businessmen (many hiding behind pseudonyms and including members of Canada's richest family, the Bronfmans), European nobility, scientists from the Stanford Research Institute and at least one prominent political figure who was a personal friend of President Gerald Ford.

We also know that Lyall Watson (then the darling of the alternative scene because of his seminal 1973 book Supernature) was involved, as was the influential counter-culture guru Ira Einhorn - and Gene Roddenberry, creator of Star Trek.
The key to predicting eclipses is noticing that they occur in cycles, or at more or less regular intervals. The Sun goes round the sky once a year; the Moon once a month. This means that, every month, the Moon 'overtakes' the sun. This happens at the New Moon, and this is when solar eclipses occur. But, of course, we don't get an eclipse every New Moon. This is because the Moon has an elliptical orbit: sometimes it passes above the Sun when it overtakes it, sometimes below. But the Moon's elliptical orbit has its own cycle: it returns to the same place it started from every 18 years or so. Thus - if seen from the same place on Earth - an eclipse will be followed by another one just over 18 years later.

Roddenberry was part of that circle in 1974 and 1975, and even produced the screenplay for a movie about The Nine. How much he was influenced by them is unknown, although it is said that some of their concepts found their way into the early Star Trek movies, and The Next Generation and Deep Space Nine (what a giveaway!) series.

(There is a character named 'Vinod' in one Deep Space Nine episode.) Another key player in Lab Nine was Dr James J Hurtak, who was appointed Puharich's second-in-command by The Nine. In fact, Hurtak had been independently channelling The Nine since 1973. Puharich and Whitmore commissioned British writer Stuart Holroyd to write an account of their adventures, which appeared in 1977 as Prelude to the Landing on Planet Earth (retitled Briefings for the Landing on Planet Earth in paperback)

In this extraordinary book the true identity of the Nine - and of Tom - was finally revealed. Far from being the chummy character that his rather avuncular name suggests, Tom is actually Atum, the creator-god of the ancient Egyptian religion of Heliopolis, and Uncle Tom with his eight mates are none other than the Great Ennead of Heliopolis,

But even with such impressive contacts, all was not well with Puharich. Lab Nine broke up in 1978 after a series of mysterious events that culminated in an arson attack on the Ossining estate, and he fled to Mexico, claiming that he was being persecuted by the CIA. He returned to the USA two years later, and appears to have played no further part in The Nine story. He died in 1995 after falling down the stairs in his South Carolina home. However, The Nine continued. Not only did Schlemmer and Whitmore continue their mission, but Dr Hurtak has also moved on. He has become a major player in the unfolding millennial drama currently being played out at Giza, but perhaps more importantly he has established himself as a New Age guru par excellence, travelling the world giving workshops on his book of channelled revelations from The Nine, The Keys of Enoch. Written and laid out in classic Biblical style, its darkly apocalyptic vision has huge numbers of influential devotees.This we find very worrying.

Another Nine channel - an Englishwoman named Jenny O'Connor - was introduced to the avant garde Esalen Institute in San Francisco by Sir John Whitmore. She and The Nine became so influential there that they held seminars and - unbelievably - were actually listed on the Institute's staff, even successfully ordering the sacking of its chief finance officer and the reorganisation of its entire management structure..

This should concern us, because many influential people attended The Nine's Esalen seminars, including Russians who were part of the Institute's Soviet Exchange programme. Some of these later rose to prominence in the Gorbachev regime and were instrumental in the downfall of Communism. (The Esalen Institute now runs the US branch of the Gorbachev Foundation.)

The Nine are very much still with us. One of their recent channels, who is also in contact with Tom, is the American writer David M Myers. He is co-author with Britain's David S Percy of that extraordinary tome Two-Thirds, a history of the galaxy and the human race according to Myer's otherwordly contacts (who clearly have no sense of the absurd). Percy - best known as a champion of the 'Face on Mars' and the 'hoaxing' of the Apollo moon landings - was at one time part of the Schlemmer circle. Among the other major proponents of the 'monuments' of Mars and their alleged connection with ancient Egypt is none other than Dr James Hurtak - The Nine's great prophet - who has promoted this idea since as long ago as 1973. Richard C Hoagland - familiar to FT readers as another unrepentant 'Mars Face' enthusiast - is also clearly under The Nine's spell. David Myers and David Percy were, respectively, American and European Director of Operations for Hoagland's Mars Mission. In fact, his interpretation of the 'monuments' of Mars comes directly from The Nine. Flake though he may appear (increasingly in these hallowed pages), but his influence over huge swathes of the hungrier mystery seekers is undeniable. This is the man who addresses rapt audiences at the United Nations.

But it is in the New Age channelling circuit that The Nine have truly come into their own. In any other circles their true agenda would no doubt have been rumbled long ago, but this is the New Age. Anything The Nine say must be sweetness and light, right? But an objective reading of their divine pronouncements reveal the first stirrings of something very nasty in Paradise.

Their words appeared in 1992 as the book The Only Planet of Choice, credited to 'transceiver' Schlemmer and edited by Mary Bennett (a one-time member of the Schlemmer circle who also edited Myers and Percy's Two-Thirds). This has had an unprecedented influence over the New Age. According to Palden Jenkins (editor of an earlier edition of Only Planet) more and more New Age channelling groups are 'realising' that the real source of their wisdom is The Nine. In fact, we have discerned what amounts to a campaign by The Nine - or their adherents - to 'take over' the New Age. It would be a mistake to underestimate the economic or even political potential of this vast subculture - rich pickings indeed.

But The Nine's influence does not extend merely to New Age channelling circles. Andrija Puharich, James Hurtak and Richard Hoagland have all lectured at the United Nations in New York. And individuals connected with The Nine are also known to have influence with Vice-President Al Gore. Of course, if The Nine really are the ancient gods of Egypt, then surely there could be fewer more significant events than their return. One may be justified in thinking that the more leading politicians who fall under their influence the better; but are they really the ancient Ennead of Egypt? Can it be that they have actually returned to sort us all out, scattering love and enlightenment from their high moral ground?

Tom, in The Only Planet of Choice, chooses his words carefully as he explains that all the races of the Earth were seeded from space-gods - except one, the "indigenous race", the blacks. He is very careful to urge us not to make an issue out of this. After all, it's not the black race's fault that they have no divine spark like the rest of us.

Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of the history of The Nine is its relationship to the career of Andrija Puharich. Recent research has revealed Puharich to have a distinctly sinister side. As an Army doctor in the 1950s, he was deeply involved with the CIA's notorious MKULTRA mind control project (see panel). He - together with the infamous Dr Sidney Gottlieb - experimented with a variety of techniques to change or induce actual thought processes. even to creating the impression of voices in the head. These techniques included the use of drugs, hypnosis and beaming radio signals directly into the subject's brain. And, significantly, he was engaged in this work at exactly the same time that The Nine made their first appearance at the Round Table Foundation. The Foundation itself is now known to have been largely funded by the Pentagon as a front for its medical and parapsychological research. Puharich was still working for the CIA in the early 1970s, when he brought Uri Geller out of Israel. Puharich's use of hypnosis is particularly interesting in The Nine circle. In the case of Uri Geller and Bobby Horne, he first hypnotised them and then suggested that they were in touch with The Nine - and lo, they were! Ira Einhorn - a close associate of Puharich's during the 1970s - confirmed to us that he believed that Puharich was "humanly directing" The Nine communications.

The evidence we have gathered strongly suggests that Tom and his fellow gods originated, not in the stars, but behind closed doors as part of a CIA mind control experiment. And what happened to that experiment? Now with hundreds of thousands of devotees, some in very high places, can The Nine be deemed a success? Of course, that depends very much on what the CIA had in mind. With their subtle racist propaganda, perhaps the flaky New Age Nine should worry the hell out of us.

[Ducky]

Tom, in The Only Planet of Choice, chooses his words carefully as he explains that all the races of the Earth were seeded from space-gods - except one, the "indigenous race", the blacks. He is very careful to urge us not to make an issue out of this. After all, it's not the black race's fault that they have no divine spark like the rest of us.


The evidence we have gathered strongly suggests that Tom and his fellow gods originated, not in the stars, but behind closed doors as part of a CIA mind control experiment. And what happened to that experiment? Now with hundreds of thousands of devotees, some in very high places, can The Nine be deemed a success? Of course, that depends very much on what the CIA had in mind. With their subtle racist propaganda, perhaps the flaky New Age Nine should worry the hell out of us.


With that much influence, then YEAH, I'd be worried somewhat

[Reality1mp0sed]

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[WynHawks]

He brings up a picture of the statues head and notes the seven spikes on the crown. On the crown is a series of 25 windows, 2+5 =7. He then heads down to the base where there are four Greek columns on each side, totaling 16 columns, 1+6=7. On the torch there are a series of raised portions that total the number 16. The statue stands at 1,813 inches, 1813÷7=259, 2+5+9=16 and 1+6=7. Without that extra inch the number is not divisible by seven and it does not break down into seven.

...emphasis above is mine cuz that underlined part doesnt follow the numerology formula the fruitcake set with the previous reductions... he changed his way of configuring the numerology cuz that was the only way he could think of to make the number fit his silly theory, which proves he gradumahwated from retard u, lol...

>~~~> spikes on the crown = 7

>~~~> 25 windows, 2+5 =7

>~~~> 16 columns, 1+6=7

>~~~< raised portions on the torch = 16 = 7

...so far we have four 7s... 4x7=28, reduces to 10, reduces to 1...

>~~~> 1,813 inches, 1813÷7=259, 2+5+9=16 and 1+6=7.

...lmao, that shouldve been 1+8+1+3=13, reduces to 4...

...so what we really have here is 1+4=5 and that = game fail...

:spank3::rules::spank2::beersign::whocares::bwaha:

[Sowelu]

"7 is the harmonic numeral, there being seven primary grades of harmony, and in order to extend it, the scale of seven must be repeated, and every repetition lessens the harmony and tends to discord."

[WynHawks]

http://www.bedlinersingeorgia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/blahblahblahblah.jpg

[Reality1mp0sed]

(Rammed 'Em Thoughts on SSSEVEN)

-7 days of creation
-28 day moon/menstrual cycle
-7 years of bad luck
-Several life milestones every 7 years beginning at age 7 - no more baby teeth
-7 densities of reality


-7 is the release from the trap/cycle of 666... the way out.. the arrow (7)... the way back home!
rMWY4Ex_rCw

[Reality1mp0sed]

http://www.meh.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/meh.ro4820.jpg

[Reality1mp0sed]

("Hidden in the temple they are building to the Sun...")
WKKfa6BhXwU

[Ducky]

(Rammed 'Em Thoughts on SSSEVEN)

-7 days of creation
-28 day moon/menstrual cycle
-7 years of bad luck
-Several life milestones every 7 years beginning at age 7 - no more baby teeth
-7 densities of reality


-7 is the release from the trap/cycle of 666... the way out.. the arrow (7)... the way back home!
rMWY4Ex_rCw

oh.my.god.

[Snow Crash]

It's the Seven Dwarves I'm concerned about.... shifty little bastards holding that chick hostage in the woods....

[WynHawks]

:lol:

[Reality1mp0sed]

oh.my.god.

LoL... What? The old guy?

Or did I reveal something only Naughty Nuns and Freebasin' Freemasons discuss?

XBjOs-egFMs

[Pam]

It's the Seven Dwarves I'm concerned about.... shifty little bastards holding that chick hostage in the woods....

Copying over to page 2 so I know what Wyn was laughing at.

Fuck I hate that, having to backtrack after seeing a laughing head at the top of a page.

And Snow........ she was happy to be there, imagine seven little people doting over you :D

[WynHawks]

...yep, it was snow... he's amusing mostly... :D

[Reality1mp0sed]

The human number (condition) is 666..the loop.... INSANITY.... definition of... fill in the blank? yes?

Somebody wake up coldpoints.... he and his adversaries needz to learn this stuff. ;)

[WynHawks]

...666 is not a loop... pay attention and i'll splain... 6+6+6=18, reduces to 9... no loopee dere... 8 is the only looper, duh... :p

[Pam]

...666 is not a loop... pay attention and i'll splain... 6+6+6=18, reduces to 9... no loopee dere... 8 is the only looper, duh... :p

My age = 7 :jaw:

[Snow Crash]

Copying over to page 2 so I know what Wyn was laughing at.

Fuck I hate that, having to backtrack after seeing a laughing head at the top of a page.

And Snow........ she was happy to be there, imagine seven little people doting over you :D

I'd be uncomfortable being harassed by seven bearded midgets weilding pickaxes, tbh Pam. But whatever flicks ya switch ;)

[Pam]

I'd be uncomfortable being harassed by seven bearded midgets weilding pickaxes, tbh Pam. But whatever flicks ya switch ;)

Okay, but imagine those seven little people were women Snow....... think about it........... you'd have a place to put your beer ;)

[coldjoint]

The mystical number Seven.

The number seven has a deep and rich history for many ancient civilizations and cultures.
Heres a list i've compiled, its not definitive so feel free to add any you think i've missed.

Apkallu (http://www.mesopotamia.co.uk/gods/explore/apkgrif.html)


Really a Sumerian tale, Akkadian, Assyrian and Babylonian all use a Sumerian template for their beliefs.

Seven sages of Greece (http://www.livius.org/se-sg/7sages/seven_sages.html)



Not the first time Plato uses the number seven, i'll get to that later.

The Seven Sages of the Bamboo Grove (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Sages_of_the_Bamboo_Grove)



Saptarishi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saptarishi) is linked to Ursa Major (the Big Dipper) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursa_Major).



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiades_(mythology) (the Seven Sisters)



the Pleiades are obviously well known star cluster and many cultures have a similar mythology relating to them. Australian Aborigines, Native Americans, Japanese, African and so on, there probably hasn't been a culture that hasnt at some point inserted the pleiades into their belief system.

Seven Wonders of the Ancient World (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Wonders_of_the_Ancient_World)



The Seven Hills of Rome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_hills_of_Rome)



www.earthmatrix.com, (Ancient Pi) (http://www.earthmatrix.com/ancient/pi.htm)



And as Plato related Atlantis existed of 7 islands.
For according to them, there were seven islands in that sea in their time, sacred to Persephone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantis)

Is there a common thread or merely coincidence that the number 7 appears so regularly as an important number in ancient beliefs?

Here's some others to ponder, the seven deadly sins, seven days in a week, seven gates of hell (another Sumerian analogy), 7 is the number most likely to occur when rolling 2 six sided dice.
I have bucket loads more but i'll leave some for you to discover yourself.. :D


I get it,reject religion and take up numerology. That makes perfect sense.

[Reality1mp0sed]

...666 is not a loop... pay attention and i'll splain... 6+6+6=18, reduces to 9... no loopee dere... 8 is the only looper, duh... :p

Mhrmmm... I see you studied numerology down at the adult education center. :shortbus:

[Snow Crash]

Okay, but imagine those seven little people were women Snow....... think about it........... you'd have a place to put your beer ;)

Ewwww..... bearded midget women with pickaxes?

[Pam]

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Anyone know if he is behaving yet?

[Snow Crash]

Anyone know if he is behaving yet?
[/INDENT]

He isn't loving the Soviet National Anthem anymore. Still calling for genocide etc though.

[Pam]

Ewwww..... bearded midget women with pickaxes?

You aren't getting it........ they are just little, they might even be kind of pretty, where are their heads when standing next to you?

Do I have to include pictures to explain this?

[Snow Crash]

You aren't getting it........ they are just little, they might even be kind of pretty, where are their heads when standing next to you?

Do I have to include pictures to explain this?

No I get.... no wait, please, get us some pics :D

[WynHawks]

...yeah pam - he needs pics, lol...

...see, told ya, ahahahaaa...

[Pam]

Oh my goodness, how the hell will I find a picture on google. Where's Lex when you need him.

Listen............. I just imagine things in the theatre of my mind, I can't always provide the picture I saw :D

[FancyFree]

Oh my goodness, how the hell will I find a picture on google. Where's Lex when you need him.

Listen............. I just imagine things in the theatre of my mind, I can't always provide the picture I saw :D

Just google midget girls or midget porn, Pam. lol

[Snow Crash]

Oh my goodness, how the hell will I find a picture on google. Where's Lex when you need him.

Listen............. I just imagine things in the theatre of my mind, I can't always provide the picture I saw :D

Pffffft.... don't be a tease! You offered us midget porn!

Edit to add: don't forget they all have to have beards AND pickaxes, even if they are women!

[Moose]

Just google midget girls or midget porn, Pam. lol

[wonders how Ms Free knows about midget pr0n]

[FancyFree]

[wonders how Ms Free knows about midget pr0n]

from Lex, I'm sure. lolol :D

[WynHawks]

[wonders how Ms Free knows about midget pr0n]

...cuz she's free, duh... ;)

[Pam]

Pffffft.... don't be a tease! You offered us midget porn!

Edit to add: don't forget they all have to have beards AND pickaxes, even if they are women!

I'm only 5'3" but my Mum is 4'11" and shrinking..........

Ummmmmmmmmm that is not as attractive as the earlier picture that was in my mind, my Mum's 83 hahahahahahahaha

[WynHawks]

:lol:

[Snow Crash]

:lol:

[Pam]

Sorry about that hahahahahahahaha............ but she is still kind of cute ;)

[FancyFree]

...cuz she's free, duh... ;)

i7iQbBbMAFE&ob=av3e

[mojo]

I get it,reject religion and take up numerology. That makes perfect sense.

your a cockhead.
i'm not into numerology or religion.
i found it interesting so posted some information on it in a thread to share. i've posted stories about politicians before, doesn't make me one. i've also posted about atlantis, doesn't make me an atlantean either. ohh i once posted a story about a clown but i'm not a fucking clown either. you post a lot about Islam, must make you a muslim does it??

[Snow Crash]

you post a lot about Islam, must make you a muslim does it??

.....hmmmmmmm.......... you may be onto something there, Mojo. What if Coldnuts is SUCH a stealthy stealthmuslim tha he went and joined a far right white power group in order to maintain his cover? Maybe his handlers are also on Amkon and they are watching him. Apocales has reappeared recently..... omg omg omg its a IRL conspiracy!

[mojo]

.....hmmmmmmm.......... you may be onto something there, Mojo. What if Coldnuts is SUCH a stealthy stealthmuslim tha he went and joined a far right white power group in order to maintain his cover? Maybe his handlers are also on Amkon and they are watching him. Apocales has reappeared recently..... omg omg omg its a IRL conspiracy!

there it is, maybe we shouldn't blow his cover then, since we are socialist liberal communist fascist islamic's it's in our best interests if he is able to maintain his position within stormfront.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

7 dudes gang raped hazel.

[mojo]

7 dudes gang raped hazel.

tell your mommy to lay off the gin, her breast milk is obviously making you delusional.

[skunk]

7 dudes gang raped hazel.

Here you go promoting rape again big man. Tough guy dredging up shit from someone's past and using it against them.

[mojo]

Here you go promoting rape again big man.

you can't say that he is black....well kinda.....you'll be accused of being a racist.

[skunk]

I am a racist, I hate all colors equally however.

[mojo]

I am a racist, I hate all colors equally however.

nothing wrong with blue.

[boycotteverything]

7 dudes gang raped hazel.
Pretty funny, eh? What a nice man you are.

[mojo]

Pretty funny, eh? What a nice man you are.

he's not a man, he's a juvenile piece of shit little cocksucker.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

Here you go promoting rape again big man. Tough guy dredging up shit from someone's past and using it against them.

Until I go on some sort of campaign trying to convince men to become rapists, you can stfu about your fail ass accusation.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

Pretty funny, eh? What a nice man you are.

Why is it that you can make fun of anarch's kid but nobody can make fun of yours? You've never answered that.

[Snow Crash]

nothing wrong with blue.

International Smurf Solidarity Movement?

[Snow Crash]

Why is it that you can make fun of anarch's kid but nobody can make fun of yours? You've never answered that.

BoycottPrinciples

[boycotteverything]

Why is it that you can make fun of anarch's kid but nobody can make fun of yours? You've never answered that.
You can make fun of them to your little heart's content. You mad?

[Hazelnut]

Here you go promoting rape again big man. Tough guy dredging up shit from someone's past and using it against them.

Let him go. I'm not harmed in the least by it. Because of it, I grew up faster than most people and am the better for it. My positive influence on those who know me does not change because some sick people choose to have a perspective and opinion that reflects the disgusting, cowardly actions of those who took what was not theirs to take. There are so many young women (girls) who are victimized by gangs of desperate horny males that its important to speak about it. I am a great source of strength to other victims who do not possess the inner strength that I have. My life has been no fairy tale, and yet I am successful, financially secure, loved deeply and respected by most who meet me even briefly. The only people I ever have problems with are the ones who are intimidated by me. I understand that perfectly and under normal circumstances I am very empathetic and compassionate. Then there are the IEF's of the world who must be dealt with by setting the scene for them to entrap themselves so that others walk away fully aware of the true character that displays itself for all to see.

[Snow Crash]

The only people I ever have problems with are the ones who are intimidated by me.

You also have problems with people who you can't control, leading to you making unfounded accusations against them.

[Hazelnut]

You also have problems with people who you can't control, leading to you making unfounded accusations against them.

I have more fun watching people be themselves. Controlling people is not my bag. Sorry to disappoint you. And you making unfounded accusations about other people making unfounded accusations is very funny. :lol:

[Snow Crash]

I have more fun watching people be themselves. Controlling people is not my bag. Sorry to disappoint you. And you making unfounded accusations about other people making unfounded accusations is very funny. :lol:

If controlling people isn't your bag, then why did you accuse people of rape when they refused to jump on your little bandwagon against IEF? You can keep denying it Hazel, but it happened, and you know it did - as do others. You're not strong, you're just a sly, two-faced, obnoxious bitch.

[boycotteverything]

Abject misogyny is the equivalent of rape.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

BoycottPrinciples

Along with accuracy, authenticity, facts, etc..

[Hazelnut]

If controlling people isn't your bag, then why did you accuse people of rape when they refused to jump on your little bandwagon against IEF? You can keep denying it Hazel, but it happened, and you know it did - as do others. You're not strong, you're just a sly, two-faced, obnoxious bitch.

I know this will go over your head honey, but once again I will restate that I accuse IEF of having rapist tendencies and mindset. Its too bad you don't agree with me, but its your choice and your life. Do what you like, say what you like, behave any way you like, no one is stopping you. Least of all some cunt from another country whom you've only spoken to verbally twice and whom you liked immensely until your silly little mind got all twisted for reasons only you can know.

I don't post here to make lifelong friends, I post and read here for entertainment. Why do you spend so much time here? Is this your life?

[Snow Crash]

WHITE KNIGHT

I noticed.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

I know this will go over your head honey, but once again I will restate that I accuse IEF of having rapist tendencies and mindset.

The thing is, you can never explain why whenever I call you out.

[Hazelnut]

Abject misogyny is the equivalent of rape.

It is true but you are speaking over the comprehension level of the worst offenders.

[Snow Crash]

I know this will go over your head honey, but once again I will restate that I accuse IEF of having rapist tendencies and mindset. Its too bad you don't agree with me, but its your choice and your life. Do what you like, say what you like, behave any way you like, no one is stopping you. Least of all some cunt from another country whom you've only spoken to verbally twice and whom you liked immensely until your silly little mind got all twisted for reasons only you can know.

I don't post here to make lifelong friends, I post and read here for entertainment. Why do you spend so much time here? Is this your life?

Hahahahahaha..... It's nice to know that you cannot answer me directly on the issue of your lies, and have to resort to deflecting and discrediting attempts.

Told you that you weren't strong.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

Then there are the IEF's of the world who must be dealt with by setting the scene for them to entrap themselves so that others walk away fully aware of the true character that displays itself for all to see.

:lol: :lol:

You have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

[Hazelnut]

The thing is, you can never explain why whenever I call you out.

Is this a gunfight or something? Calling me out. :lol:

[Snow Crash]

It is true but you are speaking over the comprehension level of the worst offenders.

Awwww, I called you a sly, two faced, obnoxious bitch and now I hate women? Hahahahahaha.... desperate, pathetic, and utterly transparent.

[Hazelnut]

Hahahahahaha..... It's nice to know that you cannot answer me directly on the issue of your lies, and have to resort to deflecting and discrediting attempts.

Told you that you weren't strong.

I've watched how you operate Snow. Your methods are very predictable and stale. They may work on newbies but I've been reading (skimming) your crap for about 2 years now. Yawn.

[Hazelnut]

Awwww, I called you a sly, two faced, obnoxious bitch and now I hate women? Hahahahahaha.... desperate, pathetic, and utterly transparent.

Yes. Name calling. Ouch! :rolleyes:

[Snow Crash]

I've watched how you operate Snow. Your methods are very predictable and stale. They may work on newbies but I've been reading (skimming) your crap for about 2 years now. Yawn.

Still can't answer, huh. Any more classics from the Deflection Playbook you wish to employ?

[Snow Crash]

Yes. Name calling. Ouch! :rolleyes:

There's sarcasm..... any other ineffectual tactics you wish to employ in order to distract from the fact that you're a lying piece of shit?

[Hazelnut]

Still can't answer, huh. Any more classics from the Deflection Playbook you wish to employ?

:lol:

Please go on.

[Hazelnut]

There's sarcasm..... any other ineffectual tactics you wish to employ in order to distract from the fact that you're a lying piece of shit?

hahahahahaha

[Snow Crash]

:lol:

Please go on.

:lol:

Laughing won't work either.

[Snow Crash]

hahahahahaha

Neither will typing that.

[Hazelnut]

Neither will typing that.

hehe?

[boycotteverything]

Awwww, I called you a sly, two faced, obnoxious bitch and now I hate women? Hahahahahaha.... desperate, pathetic, and utterly transparent.
Anyone who supports the 'running of trains' and other forms of gang rape is ethically vacant. Untrack your mind. It's the first step towards freedom.

[Snow Crash]

hehe?

That won't either. But thatnks for continuing to demonstrate neatly what I said about your dishonesty.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

Abject misogyny is the equivalent of rape.

And who here, are misogynists BE?

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

Anyone who supports the 'running of trains' and other forms of gang rape is ethically vacant. Untrack your mind. It's the first step towards freedom.

Running a train isn't a fucking gang rape. Seriously wtf is wrong with you people?

[Snow Crash]

Anyone who supports the 'running of trains' and other forms of gang rape is ethically vacant. Untrack your mind. It's the first step towards freedom.

Nobody on here supports the running of trains. Only the Hazel and her little posse of White Knights believe IEF has any support on Amkon over his decision to run a train on anyone. The difference some people have is that some see it as a consensual sex act, albeit a disgraceful and disgusting one, whereas others are just content to cry rape and point fingers.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

The difference some people have is that some see it as a consensual sex act, albeit a disgraceful and disgusting one,

The former is all that matters. Whether people choose to acknowledge it or not.

[boycotteverything]

Your marginalization of the Hazel's experience is a vile continuation of that gang rape. I feel truly sorry that you can't see that.

[Hazelnut]

Nobody on here supports the running of trains. Only the Hazel and her little posse of White Knights believe IEF has any support on Amkon over his decision to run a train on anyone. The difference some people have is that some see it as a consensual sex act, albeit a disgraceful and disgusting one, whereas others are just content to cry rape and point fingers.

Who are my posse of white knights again?

And ( I know this will be complicated for you) what difference does it make to you if other members who are offended by gross intentional and deliberate hatefulness speak out against it?

Finally, because there are more than three members who think along similar lines, does that mean they are a posse?

Please help "us" understand what the fuck you are talking about.

[Snow Crash]

Who is my posse of white knights again?

And ( I know this will be complicated for you) what difference does it make to you if other members who are offended by gross intentional and deliberate hatefulness speak out against it?

Finally, because there are more than three members who think along similar lines, does that mean they are a posse?

Please help "us" understand what the fuck your talking about.

You don't speak out against hatefulness. You and all the little nobjockies who decided to start labelling people as rapists for not going after IEF simply accuse him of something you have no prosecutable evidence for. You're a lynch mob, plain and simple. But it's probably beyond your comprehension to understand that, given false accusations seems to be a tactic you employ on a regular basis.

Sure, if you want to call IEF out for his ludicours ideas about women and race, then go right ahead. What you refer to as his 'hatefulness' - which is really him just pushing your buttons because you won't leave each other alone - is something you helped to grow by calling him a rapist over and over.

Once again, you're reaping what you have sown. Don't like it? Try a different tactic with him or just ignore him.

[Ducky]

Cut it out.

I'm not amused.

But..WAIT...was I 'ever' amused? That's the fucking question?

I can honestly be AMUSED for about 90% of the time, and that's it.

Does it mean that you fucks don't amuse me for 10% of the time and I have to 'pull my tit'?

Could be. Or the fact that I don't relish looking at certain posts - does that knock it down a few percentages? Could be.

[Hazelnut]

You don't speak out against hatefulness. You and all the little nobjockies who decided to start labelling people as rapists for not going after IEF simply accuse him of something you have no prosecutable evidence for. You're a lynch mob, plain and simple. But it's probably beyond your comprehension to understand that, given false accusations seems to be a tactic you employ on a regular basis.

Sure, if you want to call IEF out for his ludicours ideas about women and race, then go right ahead. What you refer to as his 'hatefulness' - which is really him just pushing your buttons because you won't leave each other alone - is something you helped to grow by calling him a rapist over and over.

Once again, you're reaping what you have sown. Don't like it? Try a different tactic with him or just ignore him.

I am not WITD.

I have never called anyone on here a rapist (or nigger). You are mixing me up with other people who you IMAGINE are my "posse".

Lord have mercy you are giving me stomach cramps from the laughter. But seriously, don't blow a blood vessel over this. I wouldn't want your massive stroke hanging over my head.

[Snow Crash]

I am not WITD.

I have never called anyone on here a rapist (or nigger). You are mixing me up with other people who you IMAGINE are my "posse".

Lord have mercy you are giving me stomach cramps from the laughter. But seriously, don't blow a blood vessel over this. I wouldn't want your massive stroke hanging over my head.

Passing the buck now huh. You truly are a pathetic person.

Oh, and please stop with the "I'M LAUGHING!!!!!LOL!!111" spiel. It's really sad lol.

[Hazelnut]

Passing the buck now huh. You truly are a pathetic person.

Oh, and please stop with the "I'M LAUGHING!!!!!LOL!!111" spiel. It's really sad lol.

Well, let's just pretend that your word is gospel then.

[boycotteverything]

The objectification of a woman demonstrated in the act of 'running a train' is nothing less than the theft of humanity- the worst of all insults. That is the case in all rapes of all kinds whether or not they may be technically legal or considered 'consensual.' There is a wide cavern between legality and ethics.

[Hazelnut]

The objectification of a woman demonstrated in the act of 'running a train' is nothing less than the theft of humanity- the worst of all insults. That is the case in all rapes of all kinds whether or not they may be technically legal or considered 'consensual.' There is a wide cavern between legality and ethics.

If a person says no and intercourse is consummated anyway, that is rape.

[Snow Crash]

The objectification of a woman demonstrated in the act of 'running a train' is nothing less than the theft of humanity- the worst of all insults.

Which is why he has no support for having done one.

[Ducky]

Upon further inspection, I honestly don't think Hazel fucks around...too much.

Hazel? Fuck off with the stomach cramps et al.

No ...SORRY. I'm sincere when I say this. I think you're a good person. I really do.

I've NEVER seen a 'mean streak' in you in all the time I've been here.

Hey? I'm being honest. Whatever.

You've never said an ill word to me; nor would I you.

I have no reason to be unkind towards you.

[Snow Crash]

Well, let's just pretend that your word is gospel then.

Probably best. Wouldn't want you to start throwing around false accusations and it suddenly becoming 'truth'.

[Ducky]

What I think happened...

[Ducky]

Is there was a 'misconstru (sp?) of what certain people's did in their lives

[Hazelnut]

Probably best. Wouldn't want you to start throwing around false accusations and it suddenly becoming 'truth'.

http://www.andmagazine.com/phoenix_uploads/images/cameron_diaz_samuel_jackson_300.jpg

[Hazelnut]

Upon further inspection, I honestly don't think Hazel fucks around...too much.

Hazel? Fuck off with the stomach cramps et al.

No ...SORRY. I'm sincere when I say this. I think you're a good person. I really do.

I've NEVER seen a 'mean streak' in you in all the time I've been here.

Hey? I'm being honest. Whatever.

You've never said an ill word to me; nor would I you.

I have no reason to be unkind towards you.

It takes all kinds to make the world go 'round, Ducky. I don't think you and I have ever crossed swords. lol You do make me laugh a lot though.

[Snow Crash]

http://www.andmagazine.com/phoenix_uploads/images/cameron_diaz_samuel_jackson_300.jpg

Yeah unfortunately Hazel your continuing attempts to laugh it off do not change the facts. It just demonstrates your weakness.

[Hazelnut]

Yeah unfortunately Hazel your continuing attempts to laugh it off do not change the facts. It just demonstrates your weakness.

Does my weakness and helplessness excite you?

[Snow Crash]

Does my weakness and helplessness excite you?

No. I find your dishonesty and two-faced nature pitiful.

Oh, and nice try, btw. Unfortunately, it just demonstrates further my point about your reliance on false accusations.

Ooooops! :lol:

[Hazelnut]

No. I find your dishonesty and two-faced nature pitiful.

Oh, and nice try, btw. Unfortunately, it just demonstrates further my point about your reliance on false accusations.

Ooooops! :lol:

Haaahhhhaaaahahahaahahahahahaaaaaaaha

You love playing with The Hazel.

;)

[mojo]

this is about the mystical number seven please. :)





:p

[DocVelocity]

The objectification of a woman demonstrated in the act of 'running a train' is nothing less than the theft of humanity- the worst of all insults. That is the case in all rapes of all kinds whether or not they may be technically legal or considered 'consensual.' There is a wide cavern between legality and ethics.

Any bitch that has a train run on her is GOING to have a wide cavern.


— Doc Velocity

[Snow Crash]

Haaahhhhaaaahahahaahahahahahaaaaaaaha

You love playing with The Hazel.

;)

Hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!

Not as much as you love deflecting.

;)

[mojo]

7

[DocVelocity]

this is about the mystical number seven please. :)

How many knots does Snow Crab have on the back of his head from donkey punches?

7


— Doc Velocity

[Ducky]

As far as the terminology goes: rape versus 'pullin a train'.

IMHO, 'consented adults vs those who were NOT a willing participant in what I call a 'Daisy train'.

We are all aware of the word: "NO" and this takes precedence in a court of law.

But what of those who are not ONLY willingly and of 'sound mind'; ones who 'want' to participate in sexual acts that would require more than one male at present? In other words, there are quite a few individuals in society that are willing to experiment in copulation between not just 'one man and one woman', but 'one woman and several men'.

Foremost, we must consider this type of sexuality, that does occur within our society; as few in frequency it does, but the fact remains that it does.

Let's address this next statement:

"To Run A Train"

If there are 'consenting individuals' to this (in which I deem: deviant fetish') than this action is not deemed to be 'rape'.

These are the key words in a court of law: 'Consenting and Mature Individuals'

If a person consents to this type of sexual behavior, then it cannot be deemed as rape.

If a person does NOT consent to this type of behavior, and doesn't allow actions placed upon their manner in said same result...then this is deemed as rape.

[Hazelnut]

1. ha
2. ha
3. ha
4. ha
5. ha
6. ha
7. hehehehe

[mojo]

post 140 hazel = 20 x 7

hmmmmmmmmmmmm..............................

[DocVelocity]

Face it, some chicks are into it.

— Doc Velocity

[Hazelnut]

As far as the terminology goes: rape versus 'pullin a train'.

IMHO, 'consented adults vs those who were NOT a willing participant in what I call a 'Daisy train'.

We are all aware of the word: "NO" and this takes precedence in a court of law.

But what of those who are not ONLY willingly and of 'sound mind'; ones who 'want' to participate in sexual acts that would require more than one male at present? In other words, there are quite a few individuals in society that are willing to experiment in copulation between not just 'one man and one woman', but 'one woman and several men'.

Foremost, we must consider this type of sexuality, that does occur within our society; as few in frequency it does, but the fact remains that it does.

Let's address this next statement:

"To Run A Train"

If there are 'consenting individuals' to this (in which I deem: deviant fetish') than this action is not deemed to be 'rape'.

These are the key words in a court of law: 'Consenting and Mature Individuals'

If a person consents to this type of sexual behavior, then it cannot be deemed as rape.

If a person does NOT consent to this type of behavior, and doesn't allow actions placed upon their manner in said same result...then this is deemed as rape.

I agree with you on every point.

[Ducky]

Face it, some chicks are into it.

— Doc Velocity

Into what?

[Snow Crash]

How many times did I fuck my sister before she stopped complaining about it?

7


You sick, sick individual.

[Snow Crash]

1. ha
2. I
3. am
4. laughing
5. to
6. save
7. face

I noticed.

[DocVelocity]

Into what?

Fucking 5, 10, 15, 20 guys in a row... I've seen it done. Wasn't pretty, but the chick was into it.

— Doc Velocity

[Snow Crash]

Fucking 5, 10, 15, 20 guys in a row... I've seen it done. Wasn't pretty, but the chick was into it.

— Doc Velocity

Family gathering at the Doc's house?

[DocVelocity]

Family gathering at the Doc's house? fwap fwap fwap fwap fwap

FIXT


— Doc Velocity

[Hazelnut]

I noticed.

For what reason do you stalk me?

[Ducky]

Fucking 5, 10, 15, 20 guys in a row... I've seen it done. Wasn't pretty, but the chick was into it.

— Doc Velocity

Was it rape in your opinion?

Be honest Doc

[Snow Crash]

FIXT


— Doc Velocity

Nah, I am not into screwing the products of incest. Sorry.

[DocVelocity]

Was it rape in your opinion?

Be honest Doc

The guys hit it like it was rape, which is a thrill... But the chick was into it, she enjoyed it. A lot of women like it rough and dirty. That's just the truth.


— Doc Velocity

[Hazelnut]

post 140 hazel = 20 x 7

hmmmmmmmmmmmm..............................

You gonna harass me with math now? I can spell damnit. Math is hard.

[Snow Crash]

For what reason do you stalk me?

Stalk you? You decided to drag me back into your ongoing spat with IEF. Don't want me involved? Leave me out of it.

[Ducky]

FFS I want a SERIOUS discussion here. Not the 'sister-fucking shit'. Cut it out peoples

[Ducky]

STOP IT

[Hazelnut]

Stalk you? You decided to drag me back into your ongoing spat with IEF. Don't want me involved? Leave me out of it.

Ok, you go to your corner and I'll go to mine. Until the next time.

[Ducky]

Both of you

That's enough

[Snow Crash]

Ok, you go to your corner and I'll go to mine. Until the next time.

Sounds fair enough.

[Ducky]

Getting back to the subject ...

jesus christ ..it's like pulling fucking teeth around here

KNOCK IT OFF

[DocVelocity]

For what reason do you stalk me?

Same reason Snow Crab stalks me and everybody else... Because he has no fucking life of his own, aside from jacking off to Chris Pine.

— Doc Velocity

[Hazelnut]

This calls for

http://www.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/large_610x456_scaled/photos/vancouver-celebration-light-2010-mexico_400911.jpg

[Ducky]

The guys hit it like it was rape, which is a thrill... But the chick was into it, she enjoyed it. A lot of women like it rough and dirty. That's just the truth.


— Doc Velocity


let's start with this

[Hazelnut]

Doc got in the way. Somehow.

[Ducky]

Hazel?
What do you think about what Doc said?

[Snow Crash]

Same reason Snow Crab stalks me and everybody else... Because he has no fucking life of his own, aside from jacking off to Chris Pine.

— Doc Velocity

Doc's just mad because his sister is cheating on him with his father.

[DocVelocity]

Yeah, Hazel, tell the truth... You like it rough and dirty sometimes. Big, dirty hands mauling your pale, sensitive skin... etc...

— Doc Velocity

[Hazelnut]

Hazel?
What do you think about what Doc said?

I think that it takes all kinds to make the world go 'round. To each his own and if it harms none all is good.

[Hazelnut]

Yeah, Hazel, tell the truth... You like it rough and dirty sometimes. Big, dirty hands mauling your pale, sensitive skin... etc...

— Doc Velocity

However I like it won't be shared with you. ;)

[DocVelocity]

BINGO...


— Doc Velocity

[DocVelocity]

Hazel's avatar is a cougar for a reason, baby. :)

— Doc Velocity

[Ducky]

I think that it takes all kinds to make the world go 'round. To each his own and if it harms none all is good.


You just said it right there Hazel: "Takes all kinds to make the world go 'round"

[DocVelocity]

However I like it won't be shared with you. ;)

You sure, Haze? Hey, trust me, I know how you like it... On top, firm bed... You like to feel the edge of my sharp teeth on your nipples as you ride... Not biting, just sliding those sharp white choppers side to side.... Right?


— Doc Velocity

[Hazelnut]

Hazel's avatar is a cougar for a reason, baby. :)

— Doc Velocity

Cats are the most hilarious, strong, courageous, dangerous, affectionate animals on the planet.

[Hazelnut]

You sure, Haze? Hey, trust me, I know how you like it... On top, firm bed... You like to feel the edge of my sharp teeth on your nipples as you ride... Not biting, just sliding those sharp white choppers side to side.... Right?


— Doc Velocity

Which should I reach for? Garlic or a silver cross and stake?

[DocVelocity]

:lol:


— Doc Velocity

[DocVelocity]

Which should I reach for? Garlic or a silver cross and stake?


Mmmmmm... KINKeeeeeee!

Let's start with the silver cross and a little AstroGlide, then we'll work around to the stake and garlic later, maybe. :)


— Doc Velocity

[Ducky]

Now Doc, after what he's been through in his own life, I could very well look at him as a disgusting individual (so sayeth his track record that he presented to us. Incest?)

But I don't. IF, what he said was true between a sibling and himself, then what am I to say? What CAN I say?

I honestly don't know. All I see is an individual who's passionate about what they say (albeit not always the right response in my books..sometimes) but is willing to share his experiences with others, that may or may not be acceptable to the norm.

He may or may not have 'degrees', but he paints. Nice pics at that, and he helped his nephew out by allowing him to 'reconstruct' a tractor(?) - Giving him a sense of 'purpose' where it was needed.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

"To Run A Train"

If there are 'consenting individuals' to this (in which I deem: deviant fetish') than this action is not deemed to be 'rape'.

These are the key words in a court of law: 'Consenting and Mature Individuals'

If a person consents to this type of sexual behavior, then it cannot be deemed as rape.


Why exactly, are you the ONLY one that's able to understand this? It isn't because you don't happen to have an agenda to play social games around here, is it?

[DocVelocity]

Now Doc, after what he's been through in his own life, I could very well look at him as a disgusting individual (so sayeth his track record that he presented to us. Incest?)

But I don't. IF, what he said was true between a sibling and himself, then what am I to say? What CAN I say?

I honestly don't know. All I see is an individual who's passionate about what they say (albeit not always the right response in my books..sometimes) but is willing to share his experiences with others, that may or may not be acceptable to the norm.

He may or may not have 'degrees', but he paints. Nice pics at that, and he helped his nephew out by allowing him to 'reconstruct' a tractor(?) - Giving him a sense of 'purpose' where it was needed.

I've said it before and I'll say it again... I don't lie about anything. Life is crazy enough without complicating it with lies.


— Doc Velocity

[mojo]

Getting back to the subject ...

jesus christ ..it's like pulling fucking teeth around here

KNOCK IT OFF

the fucking subject is 7, not fucking rape or running trains.

[Snow Crash]

:lol:

[mojo]

:lol:

seriously, ducky says lets get back to the subject and starts talking about fucking running fucking trains FFS!!!!!!

sometimes i think i'm the only normal person here, and thats fucking scary!!!!

[Hazelnut]

seriously, ducky says lets get back to the subject and starts talking about fucking running fucking trains FFS!!!!!!

sometimes i think i'm the only normal person here, and thats fucking scary!!!!

Has this been posted already?

E2X5k4WGJSE

[TheSyndicate]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZoY102X9cM

[Lexion]

sometimes i think i'm the only normal person here, and thats fucking scary!!!!

Yes, yes it is.

[mojo]

Yes, yes it is.

:p

[RedneckR0nin]

5EHImi9xHig

Rep'd

[Pam]

the fucking subject is 7, not fucking rape or running trains.


Sorry mojo, that wasn't my intention of where this thread would go when I bumped it :(

[mojo]

Sorry mojo, that wasn't my intention of where this thread would go when I bumped it :(

It's all good Pam. :)

[FancyFree]

7341

[WynHawks]

i'm the only normal person here, and thats fucking scary!!!!

...yep it is, especially after hearing about your gram's possum...

http://www.funny2k.com/sites/default/files/styles/medium/public/Pictures/funny-kids-terrified-going-down-a-slide-on-a-sack1.jpg

[mojo]

lmao!!

want to hear about my grandad!!!!!

:D

[FancyFree]

My brother, when he was about 6, walked in on my mom changing once and said "Mom, where's that thing you hang your boobies in?". lolol

[mojo]

haha, i busted my mum having sex in the shower with one of her boyfriends when i was about 11 or 12, still remember the look of horror on her face, fucking funny!

[FancyFree]

haha, i busted my mum having sex in the shower with one of her boyfriends when i was about 11 or 12, still remember the look of horror on her face, fucking funny!

I busted in on my parents having sex once when i was little, I was horrified and mortified and ran out crying. lolol

[Moose]

Can we please get back to the raping of trains?

I don't want to think about old people's junk.

[mojo]

I busted in on my parents having sex once when i was little, I was horrified and mortified and ran out crying. lolol

lol, i bet they kept the door locked after that!! i know my mum never forgot to lock the bathroom door again, hahaha.

so that it's on subject, we lived in number 7 at the time.

[TheSyndicate]

Can we please get back to the raping of trains?

I don't want to think about old people's junk.

7347

[Moose]

7347

MARRY ME?

[Ducky]

lmao!!

want to hear about my grandad!!!!!

:D

never mind rape and trains lets hear about your Grand Dad

ahhhh it's all good Mojo :D

[Ducky]

LOL Moose

[FancyFree]

lol, i bet they kept the door locked after that!! i know my mum never forgot to lock the bathroom door again, hahaha.

so that it's on subject, we lived in number 7 at the time.

I think I was 7 when I saw it. :p

[mojo]

7347

You Rock!!

:)

[WynHawks]

lmao!!
want to hear about my grandad!!!!!
:D

...yeah, sure, cant be any worse than mine, lol... speakin of kinky old folks, grandma and mom call(ed) their puss their "thuzy", like suzy with a lisp... for some reason it was (still is) somewhat repulsive but at the same time very funny... kinda screwed me up socially tho cuz when i meet someone named suzy and they tell me their name i kinda look like this pic below (but with really good hair)...

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/008/f/4/shit_eating_grin_by_emo_kid_crys-d36qlo3.jpg

[mojo]

^^Hahahaha^^

I'm going to crack up laughing next time i meet a Suzy!!!

[WynHawks]

...my mom would be so proud if she knew what i just did... :D

[Pam]

I had a girlfriend that called it a "birdie", I thought WTF?!?!

[Pam]

Ooooooooooopsy forgot to mention the number 7 in that last post ;)

[Hazelnut]

After Sven comes eight.

http://www.residentadvisor.net/images/reviews/2008/sven-vath-the-sound-of-the-eighth-season.jpeg

[WynHawks]

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[WynHawks]

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[FancyFree]

Anyone else ever watch this TV show....

7350

[LudwidVonBunnypants]

That show irritated me... However, not as much as Life goes On

[FancyFree]

That show irritated me... However, not as much as Life goes On

It wasn't because of Corky, was it? I loved him but the girl really irked me.

[TheSyndicate]

Anyone else ever watch this TV show....

7350

Yeah, I remember wanting to bone this chick when I was about 13:

7351

Hell, I'd still hit it.

[LudwidVonBunnypants]

It wasn't because of Corky, was it? I loved him but the girl really irked me.


Beck-a... She was obnoxious tv...


Actually Corky was awesome and did a lot for downs people at the time..


But Beck-a was a bitch.

[Moose]

Yeah, I remember wanting to bone this chick when I was about 13:

7351

Hell, I'd still hit it.

[says nothing and nods]

[FancyFree]

Beck-a... She was obnoxious tv...


Actually Corky was awesome and did a lot for downs people at the time..


But Beck-a was a bitch.

Yes!!! Beckaaaa.

[FancyFree]

Yeah, I remember wanting to bone this chick when I was about 13:

7351

Hell, I'd still hit it.

Is she on/in anything now? I'm trying to think of what I might have recently seen her in but I can't remember! Ughh!

[TheSyndicate]

Is she on/in anything now? I'm trying to think of what I might have recently seen her in but I can't remember! Ughh!

Looks like she was in Saw II, and some other stuff:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005238/

[mojo]

Is she on/in anything now?

crack.


on and in.

[Sowelu]

In spiritual parlance, 1 thru 6 are all contained within and synthesized by the seventh. The universe IS sevening. Ancient emblems reflect this. Ex. Swastika=4 sevens. Necessarily, since we are in the fourth round out of 7.

[TheSyndicate]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb3IMTJjzfo

[Iamsix]

As that I am six, mentioning seven is blashphamey. So I will not mention him, unless he pays reparations.

[FancyFree]

As that I am six, mentioning seven is blashphamey. So I will not mention him, unless he pays reparations.

You'll have to ask Bob how to go about getting reparations, it's going great for him. lol

[Iamsix]

Nope. That is entirely up to seven.

[Watcher-In-The-Shadows]

And six is afraid of seven because seven eight nine. :P

[FancyFree]

And six is afraid of seven because seven eight nine. :P

haha! +1 Watcher. My oldest daughter says that all the time. lol

[Watcher-In-The-Shadows]

LoL! *bows*

[Moose]

http://www.crystalinks.com/sevenwondersmap.gif