mojo
01-20-2008, 12:06 PM
:lol: Didn't know where to put this jasn, see if you can come up with the correct spot for it.
Ok, this is based on the Gaia theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_philosophy) except taken a step further and forms the basis of my belief system if its hard to understand it's because it's fairly difficult for me to explain. :)
Instead of doing a copy/paste of my original post from another site i thought i'd re-write it as my thoughts on this theory have changed somewhat, evolution in progress. hehe.
Bugs or brain cells, the idea goes something like this, what we are is nothing more than microbes/molecules living on a cell (Earth), the cell is part of this larger organism, part of the bloodstream of the cosmos. ie the planets, stars and solar systems, galaxy's, black holes etc and the vacuum in between make up the bloodstream and cells of the Universe.
This concept means that the Universe is in fact a living biological unit and we are all just tiny parts that make up its existence as a whole.
Does this entity think, breathe, feel, sure why not.
If it thinks it's thoughts would be on a grand scale and maybe take millenia to take form as a physical action.
Does it breathe, sure, perhaps it's exhaling as we speak, the universe is expanding.
Would it feel, difficult to answer but for the sake of the argument i'll say yes, impossible to quantify from our meagre vantage point.
The perspective we need to take when thinking of the Universe as a living entity is that any of it's actions or thoughts would be on a scale that we would not be able to comprehend therefore a lack of evidence for this theory is an obvious problem, not unlike some other belief systems i might add. :D
Consider for a moment what this means to us, what role do we play in this entity's life cycle, are we germs, parasites or cancerous cells, are we brain cells, do we have an important role to play or are we insignificant.
If i was to answer that question right now i would have to suggest that we are closer to a cancer cell than a brain cell, have a look at the destruction we are wreaking on this planet.
Are there other types of cells on other planets behaving as we do, are lifeforms like us the beginings of disease and will this entity's body at some stage attack us with its own version of anti bodies or white blood cells. Is this why there have been so many extinction events already on our planet and is another one due?
Is this entity God? No i don't think so, like us i dont believe it would have any conscious knowledge of what is happening within it's body, just as we wouldn't.
It isn't omnipotent or omniscient or omnipresent, in fact it may be juvenile or merely amoeba like, living without thought except to eat, survive and procreate, if it were sentient it may still have no idea of what we are within it.
Is it part of a larger community, a community of Universal size beings all living in seperate dimensions of time and space yet able to communicate with one another. Is all life like looking in a mirror with a mirror behind, infinitely progressing up a ladder to even larger more complicated forms of life. Would this Universal type entity itself be only a smaller part of another much larger organism?
This is what i believe, there's probably a lot of holes in my theory/belief system but no more than any of the other mainstream religious or scientific beliefs i wouldn't think.
So i think of myself as an atheist because i dont believe in a God but i do believe that we are a part of something much larger than we could ever possibly comprehend, it just isn't interested in us or more than likely doesn't even have any knowledge of our existence. We weren't created by this being we are merely part of its functioning body, whether for good or ill it is hard to say. In an ideal world i would like to think that yes, we are important, that we are in fact neurons firing messages off to the brain, or perhaps we are a thought that is working on solving a problem or function for this being, much like a running program within a computer.
Hers some related links.
panspermia (http://www.panspermia.org/eprize.htm)
Pierre Teilhard de Chardin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Teilhard_de_Chardin)
The Great Attractor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Attractor)
amoeba-like structure 200 million light-years wide (http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/space/2006-07-27-biggest-blob_x.htm)
Love to hear your thoughts on this everyone.
Cheers mojo.
Ok, this is based on the Gaia theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_philosophy) except taken a step further and forms the basis of my belief system if its hard to understand it's because it's fairly difficult for me to explain. :)
Instead of doing a copy/paste of my original post from another site i thought i'd re-write it as my thoughts on this theory have changed somewhat, evolution in progress. hehe.
Bugs or brain cells, the idea goes something like this, what we are is nothing more than microbes/molecules living on a cell (Earth), the cell is part of this larger organism, part of the bloodstream of the cosmos. ie the planets, stars and solar systems, galaxy's, black holes etc and the vacuum in between make up the bloodstream and cells of the Universe.
This concept means that the Universe is in fact a living biological unit and we are all just tiny parts that make up its existence as a whole.
Does this entity think, breathe, feel, sure why not.
If it thinks it's thoughts would be on a grand scale and maybe take millenia to take form as a physical action.
Does it breathe, sure, perhaps it's exhaling as we speak, the universe is expanding.
Would it feel, difficult to answer but for the sake of the argument i'll say yes, impossible to quantify from our meagre vantage point.
The perspective we need to take when thinking of the Universe as a living entity is that any of it's actions or thoughts would be on a scale that we would not be able to comprehend therefore a lack of evidence for this theory is an obvious problem, not unlike some other belief systems i might add. :D
Consider for a moment what this means to us, what role do we play in this entity's life cycle, are we germs, parasites or cancerous cells, are we brain cells, do we have an important role to play or are we insignificant.
If i was to answer that question right now i would have to suggest that we are closer to a cancer cell than a brain cell, have a look at the destruction we are wreaking on this planet.
Are there other types of cells on other planets behaving as we do, are lifeforms like us the beginings of disease and will this entity's body at some stage attack us with its own version of anti bodies or white blood cells. Is this why there have been so many extinction events already on our planet and is another one due?
Is this entity God? No i don't think so, like us i dont believe it would have any conscious knowledge of what is happening within it's body, just as we wouldn't.
It isn't omnipotent or omniscient or omnipresent, in fact it may be juvenile or merely amoeba like, living without thought except to eat, survive and procreate, if it were sentient it may still have no idea of what we are within it.
Is it part of a larger community, a community of Universal size beings all living in seperate dimensions of time and space yet able to communicate with one another. Is all life like looking in a mirror with a mirror behind, infinitely progressing up a ladder to even larger more complicated forms of life. Would this Universal type entity itself be only a smaller part of another much larger organism?
This is what i believe, there's probably a lot of holes in my theory/belief system but no more than any of the other mainstream religious or scientific beliefs i wouldn't think.
So i think of myself as an atheist because i dont believe in a God but i do believe that we are a part of something much larger than we could ever possibly comprehend, it just isn't interested in us or more than likely doesn't even have any knowledge of our existence. We weren't created by this being we are merely part of its functioning body, whether for good or ill it is hard to say. In an ideal world i would like to think that yes, we are important, that we are in fact neurons firing messages off to the brain, or perhaps we are a thought that is working on solving a problem or function for this being, much like a running program within a computer.
Hers some related links.
panspermia (http://www.panspermia.org/eprize.htm)
Pierre Teilhard de Chardin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Teilhard_de_Chardin)
The Great Attractor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Attractor)
amoeba-like structure 200 million light-years wide (http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/space/2006-07-27-biggest-blob_x.htm)
Love to hear your thoughts on this everyone.
Cheers mojo.