JiveTurkey
01-15-2008, 04:30 AM
This is something I originally posted at that other forum awhile back. I felt the need to post it here as well.
_____________________________________________Jasn
To Support Ron Paul is to Support the Constitution and Limiting of Federal Governmental Power.
Reading through many of these threads in regards to Ron Paul, I find myself both proud and disgusted all at the same time.
While I certainly feel that EVERYONE has the right to choose their own candidate, the REASONS given by some for not liking Ron Paul are completely LUDICROUS.
--A "defeatist" mentality in regards to Iraq:
OH C'MON!!! Our "stated" agenda in Iraq was accomplished in NO TIME. Saddam was toppled and "democracy" was established. Aside from the non-existent WMDs, those were our stated goals. So, WHY ARE WE STILL THERE????
MONEY!!!!!!!! Iraq is no longer anything BUT a war for profit. How could ANY sane person support giving the lives of OUR troops for financial gain? It's disgusting.
--He voted against *blah blah blah*
ANYONE who actually took the time to do a background check on Ron Paul would see that his voting record is consistently against ANYTHING giving the federal government MORE power. Anytime he votes against certain issues that people seem to get all upset about, it is USUALLY because it was something that gave the federal government more power. Ron Paul is a supporter of STATE'S RIGHTS. In fact, many times he votes FOR something in Texas and AGAINST it at the federal level for this very reason.
--He is opposed to the Federal Reserve Board.
Unless you are rich, how could you NOT be against the Federal Reserve? Our entire nation's wealth is controlled by a VERY small and VERY select group of PRIVATE bankers. How could any reasonable person support this?
Do you guys actually ENJOY the fact that your money no longer carries any value? Do you think it's a good idea to have currency that is backed by absolutely NOTHING?
The Federal Reserve system is CORRUPT to the core and is inherently FLAWED.
The ONLY people that benefit from this financial system are the bankers and those they pay to ensure the system stays in place.
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The above are only 3 of the ridiculous reasons that some give for their opposition to Ron Paul.
Some things I have noticed that these people have in common.
Most of them use phrases like "Islamofascists", "Mrs. Bill Clinton", "Liberal scum" and a few other STAPLE phrases of "conservative talk radio". Idiots like Michael Savage, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity have made these phrases VERY common within certain circles and their loyal servants/followers are very easily spotted because they repeat EXACTLY what the above 3 say almost verbatim and they make a habit of using these little staple "catchphrases".
I don't know what is more sad; The fact that they actually BELIEVE the crap these morons spew or the fact that these morons seem to be the ONLY place these guys/girls get their "news".
It's almost pathetic how the easily the sheep in this country fall victim to the LIE of a two party system.
The fact that there are so many people in this country that actually BELIEVE that there is a difference between a Republican and a Democrat saddens me. Why have so many been so easily drawn into this "battle" between the parties?
I've got news for you guys, if you have two different teams both playing for the same sponsor, the sponsor ALWAYS wins.
Just look at the elections of 2006 and the aftermath of the DEMS gaining "control".
What has changed since then?
Where are all those things that they promised?
I titled this thread "To Support Ron Paul is to Support the Consitution and Limiting of Federal Governmental Power." for reason.
Ron Paul has CONSISTENTLY supported the Constitution and he has CONSISTENTLY opposed more federal power.
Both of these are principals that our nation was founded on and both of these are also principals that ALMOST every other candidate is very much in favor of.
In 2008, the ONLY choice a supporter of the Constitution has is Ron Paul.
That is, to me, VERY sad.
Not because Ron Paul is a bad candidate, but because ANYONE that runs for this nations highest position should support the Constitution of these United States FIRST AND FOREMOST!!!!
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
This paragraph is the CORE of the Presidential Oath of Office, yet, who was the last president to actually UPHOLD this oath?
It would be silly of me (or anyone else) to say that if you don't support Ron Paul then you "un-American" or anything along those lines.
You, just like me, have EVERY right to vote for any candidate you choose.
HOWEVER, you ALSO have a duty to elect officials that will uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States. Anyone who doesn't is, by default, forfeiting EVERY right that that Constitution provides them.
No matter who you vote for in 2008, we should ALL be opposed to ANY candidate that does not support the Constitution of the United States.
I don't know about you, but in 2008, I'll be voting for the Constitution.
Jasn
_____________________________________________Jasn
To Support Ron Paul is to Support the Constitution and Limiting of Federal Governmental Power.
Reading through many of these threads in regards to Ron Paul, I find myself both proud and disgusted all at the same time.
While I certainly feel that EVERYONE has the right to choose their own candidate, the REASONS given by some for not liking Ron Paul are completely LUDICROUS.
--A "defeatist" mentality in regards to Iraq:
OH C'MON!!! Our "stated" agenda in Iraq was accomplished in NO TIME. Saddam was toppled and "democracy" was established. Aside from the non-existent WMDs, those were our stated goals. So, WHY ARE WE STILL THERE????
MONEY!!!!!!!! Iraq is no longer anything BUT a war for profit. How could ANY sane person support giving the lives of OUR troops for financial gain? It's disgusting.
--He voted against *blah blah blah*
ANYONE who actually took the time to do a background check on Ron Paul would see that his voting record is consistently against ANYTHING giving the federal government MORE power. Anytime he votes against certain issues that people seem to get all upset about, it is USUALLY because it was something that gave the federal government more power. Ron Paul is a supporter of STATE'S RIGHTS. In fact, many times he votes FOR something in Texas and AGAINST it at the federal level for this very reason.
--He is opposed to the Federal Reserve Board.
Unless you are rich, how could you NOT be against the Federal Reserve? Our entire nation's wealth is controlled by a VERY small and VERY select group of PRIVATE bankers. How could any reasonable person support this?
Do you guys actually ENJOY the fact that your money no longer carries any value? Do you think it's a good idea to have currency that is backed by absolutely NOTHING?
The Federal Reserve system is CORRUPT to the core and is inherently FLAWED.
The ONLY people that benefit from this financial system are the bankers and those they pay to ensure the system stays in place.
----------------------------------
The above are only 3 of the ridiculous reasons that some give for their opposition to Ron Paul.
Some things I have noticed that these people have in common.
Most of them use phrases like "Islamofascists", "Mrs. Bill Clinton", "Liberal scum" and a few other STAPLE phrases of "conservative talk radio". Idiots like Michael Savage, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity have made these phrases VERY common within certain circles and their loyal servants/followers are very easily spotted because they repeat EXACTLY what the above 3 say almost verbatim and they make a habit of using these little staple "catchphrases".
I don't know what is more sad; The fact that they actually BELIEVE the crap these morons spew or the fact that these morons seem to be the ONLY place these guys/girls get their "news".
It's almost pathetic how the easily the sheep in this country fall victim to the LIE of a two party system.
The fact that there are so many people in this country that actually BELIEVE that there is a difference between a Republican and a Democrat saddens me. Why have so many been so easily drawn into this "battle" between the parties?
I've got news for you guys, if you have two different teams both playing for the same sponsor, the sponsor ALWAYS wins.
Just look at the elections of 2006 and the aftermath of the DEMS gaining "control".
What has changed since then?
Where are all those things that they promised?
I titled this thread "To Support Ron Paul is to Support the Consitution and Limiting of Federal Governmental Power." for reason.
Ron Paul has CONSISTENTLY supported the Constitution and he has CONSISTENTLY opposed more federal power.
Both of these are principals that our nation was founded on and both of these are also principals that ALMOST every other candidate is very much in favor of.
In 2008, the ONLY choice a supporter of the Constitution has is Ron Paul.
That is, to me, VERY sad.
Not because Ron Paul is a bad candidate, but because ANYONE that runs for this nations highest position should support the Constitution of these United States FIRST AND FOREMOST!!!!
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
This paragraph is the CORE of the Presidential Oath of Office, yet, who was the last president to actually UPHOLD this oath?
It would be silly of me (or anyone else) to say that if you don't support Ron Paul then you "un-American" or anything along those lines.
You, just like me, have EVERY right to vote for any candidate you choose.
HOWEVER, you ALSO have a duty to elect officials that will uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States. Anyone who doesn't is, by default, forfeiting EVERY right that that Constitution provides them.
No matter who you vote for in 2008, we should ALL be opposed to ANY candidate that does not support the Constitution of the United States.
I don't know about you, but in 2008, I'll be voting for the Constitution.
Jasn