Interesting

[JiveTurkey]

I find it pretty interesting that no one has started a topic here yet.


Have we all become totally jaded to the whole 9/11 circus???


I actually debated whether or not to add this section, but I figured future members would be interested, so I went ahead and threw it in the mix.



*listens to the crickets in the 9/11 forum*


Jasn

[Steve-o]

Hahahaha....... guess it's just you and me bro :D

* steve talks to jasn about 9/11 *

[zysin5]

Well man as you both know just how freakin touchy this subject is for everyone.. Its such a mess.. And I personaly like staying out of all 911 threads anywhere on the net..

I find most people spend to much time fighting with eachother..

You pointed that out one time Jasn.. I remember it clearly the way you where trying to explain how this all goes down..

So while I am here... this will be my only 911 post... I have cleared my mind of this subject.. I know who is to blame, and who is controlling what. But people are going to have to come to their own conclusions on this matter..
The more you run around trying to open peoples eyes.. The more heat you will have surrounding you at all sides.

[mojo]

being from australia i have never really had much of an opinion on 9/11 apart from the fact that you guys get your dates all ass about.

i checked out the ats threads on 9/11 in the early days but you could hardly follow what was going on due to all the bullshit and fighting.

personally i think there is just a little bit of truth to some of the conspiracy angles but the vast majority of it seems pretty lame.

waiting patiently for the flames. :)

[Yo Mama]

This is going to be my first and only 9/11 post.

Does it matter now who did it? It screwed us eight ways from Sunday and has made the whole world so scared to piss off Muslims that the archbishop of Canterbury thinks that muslims in the UK should be allowed to practice sharia law.

I take it at face value. I don't think that the administration had anything to do with it, other than putting their heads in the sand and hoping it would go away when they got the intel.

[mojo]

lol, i nearly fell off my chair when i saw the archbishop on the news the other night.
UNBELIEVEABLE!!

[JiveTurkey]

waiting patiently for the flames. :)



Grandmaster mojo will NEVER be flamed here at good ol AmKon.


At the very least, the flames will not be tolerated.



Unless, of course, it is another of the AmKon 'originals' doing the flaming....hahaha

[mojo]

lol, i dont mind the occasional BBQ, helps to keep you on your toes. :)

[Boondock]

i won't be posting in here either...between the other place and another forum i visit, i can not debate this topic in any detail any longer...
it just wears on my brain too much....after 6 years almost the arguments always end the same....nobody's opinion gets swayed and people just wind up fighting over it...

[Bitchkoma]

being from australia i have never really had much of an opinion on 9/11 apart from the fact that you guys get your dates all ass about.

Hahahahahaahha!! Yeah! For the rest of the world, it's 11/9!

[Boondock]

learn something new every day...i always thought that the national standard was month then day.....
the rest of the world is just retarded i guess.

[johnlear]

The attack on the United States of America on September 11, 2001 was an inside job. There were no hijackers. There were no planes. It was all a carefully planned PsyOp.

And for all of its evil it worked pretty darn well.

The immediate objective for the attack was to create an enemy out of Arab/Muslims and make them "terrorists" and to use that as an excuse to immediately invade Afghanistan to expand their opium poppy crop and invade Iraq for her oil and to use as staging base to attack other Middle East countries.

The opium crop in Afghanistan went from 14% of the world's production in 2001 to 94% of the world's production in 2007.

The U.S. is in charge of the cultivation, harvest, production, distribution and sale of all of that 94%.

The longer range objectives of the war in the Middle East is the takeover of Iran, Saudi Arabia for their oil and eventually Pakistan with Russia and China a few years later.

Many ask is Israel had any hand in 911. That would be like asking if Santa Claus has anything to do with Christmas.

But this was not an attack on the United States by Israel. Rather it was an attack on the United State of America by those who held powerful positions within the US Government and who have an agenda which happens to be sympathetic with the Israeli/Mossad goals of the control and takeover of the middle east if not the world.

Many of those powerful people hold dual US/Israeli citizenship and had been, through their predecessors, for the past 60 years carefully and systematically infiltrating the top echelons of U.S. Government, Industry and Military.

Sometimes they are referred to as the Military Industrial Complex. They are more accurately identified as the NASA/Freemason/Nazi/Magician/Dod/Military Complex.

But whoever and whatever they are or what their ultimate agenda is many of their client companies which include:

SCIENCE APPLICATIONS INTERNATIONAL CORP.;
APPLIED RESEARCH ASSOCIATES, INC.;
NuSTATS; COMPUTER AIDED ENGINEERING ASSOCIATES, INC.;
DATASOURCE, INC.; GEOSTAATS, INC.;
GILSANZ MURRAY STEFICEK LLP;
HUGHES ASSOCIATES, INC.; AJMAL ABBASI;
EDUARDO KAUSEL; DAVID PARKS;
DAVID SHARP; DANIELE VENEZANO;
JOSEF VAN DYCK; KASPAR WILLIAM;
ROLF JENSEN & ASSOCIATES, INC;
ROSENWASSER/GROSSMAN CONSULTING ENGINEERS, P.C.;
SIMPSON GUMPERTZ & :HEGER, INC.;
S. K. GHOSH ASSOCIATES, INC.;
SKIDMORE, OWINGS & MERRILL, LLP;
TENG & ASSOCIATES, INC.;
UNDERWRITERS LABORATORIES, INC.;
WISS, JANNEY, ELSTNER ASSOCIATES, INC.;

were sued in New York District Court by Morgan Reynolds on behalf of the United States of America on May 31, 2007.

These companies were sued for providing false and fraudulent information to NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology) in the investigation of the collapse of the World Trade Center.

This is a Qui Tam Complaint, a False Claims Act, and refers to the legal statute that it is illegal to provide false and fraudulent information to the U.S. Government or any office of the U.S. Government and receive money for that false and fraudulent information.

In the complaint it is alleged that the defendants:

"…knowingly concealed, or failed to disclose, or caused others to fail to disclose material information in several reports filed in the public domain along with NCSTAR 1, and that comprise various sub-parts of NCSTAR 1, known as NCSTAR 1-1 through and including NCSTAR 1-8 and various subparts under each of the said NCSTAR 1-1 through and including NCSTAR 1-8 that, in the aggregate, constitute several thousand pages of text, documentation, graphical displays, simulations, charts and other documentation, all of which purported to satisfy, but intentionally did not satisfy, the mandate that NIST had, which was that of determining what cause the destruction of WTC1,2. Instead, all such documentation serves solely to mislead, obfuscate and provide a vehicle for the intended fraud; namely, that of steering NIST away from a consideration of what caused the destruction of WTC1,2; which, as elsewhere elaborated"

NCSTAR refers to National Construction Safety Team Act Report, 43 volumes of which comprise NIST’s final report on the WTC Towers issued in October 2005.

The Qui Tam Complaint alleges numerous allegations among which are:

"conceals the fact that the buildings known as the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center Complex, World Trade Center 1 and World Trade Center 2 were not hit by Boeing 767 jetliners and all such claims to that effect are glaringly and obviously blatantly false and are indeed, a manifested psychological operation (“psy op”) of the type that one or more of the defendants herein, including, without limitation, SAIC, specialize in."

"Much of the secrecy apparatus under which psy ops are developed and were employed on September 11, 2001 (hereinafter generally referred to as 9/11/01) may, in fact, fall outside the purview of the normal, legally mandated decisional and command structure of the Armed Forces of the United States of America and may, in fact, be rogue
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elements that are neither responsive to or even known to the lawful chain of command of the Armed Forces."

"It is in that manner that some 3000 deaths were inflicted upon the United States of America on 9/11/01 based on fraud, apparent criminality and/or treason of a virtually unprecedented scale. This applies to both the events of 9/11/01 and to subsequent events that were justified upon the alleged commission of terror against the USA, when, in fact, the operation on 9/11/01 was in the nature of what is known as a “false flag operation” and what is also known as a “psychological operation” (psy op), of the type that some of the defendants herein, including, by way of non-exhaustive example, SAIC, engage in as a part of their business operations."

The complaint alleges that the defendants' scheme was:


VII. THE DEFENDANTS’ SCHEME

50. The destruction of the WTC on September 11, 2001, was caused, in whole or in part, by the use of Directed Energy Weapons, consisting in High Energy Lasers and or other operational, but largely secret weapons that are, nonetheless, known to exist and known to have been deployed and/or deployable in the year 2001, before and after. It is also clear and apparent on its face that NIST’s explanation of the destruction of WTC1,2, issued in or about the month of September, 2005, is blatantly false, incomplete, misleading and fraudulent. As earlier stated, NIST first described its mandate, in words and substance, as that of determining what caused the destruction of WTC1,2. Then by intentional and admitted modification and narrowing of the scope of that stated objective and mandate, NIST openly declined to carry it out. That modification was at the behest and with the urging, backing and/or combined manipulative power of the defendants, acting singularly, collectively, overtly, covertly and otherwise.

The lawsuit lists seven causes of action and concludes with this Prayer for Relief and Request for Jury Trial:


PRAYER FOR RELIEF

WHEREFORE, the United States demands and prays that judgment be entered in favor of it as follows:

1. On the First, Second, and Third, Causes of Action under the False Claims Act, against all defendants, for the amount of the United States' damages, multiplied as required by law, and such civil penalties as are required by law, together with all such further relief as may be just and proper.

2. On the Fourth, Fifth and Sixth Causes of Action, for unjust enrichment, payment by mistake, and common law recoupment against all defendants, for the damages sustained and/or amounts by which defendants were unjustly enriched or by which defendants retained illegally obtained monies, plus interest, costs, and expenses, for an accounting of such monies and such further relief as may be just and proper.

3. On the Seventh Cause of Action, for common law fraud against all defendants, for compensatory and punitive damages, together with costs and interest, and for such further relief as may be just and proper.

The Qui Tam Complaint is approximately 40 pages long and can be accessed in its entirety here: thelivingmoon.com.

The lawsuit has been winding its way through the court system and a few months ago one of the defendants sought a motion to dismiss.

The motion was answered by several persons including Morgan Reynolds, Jerry Leaphart (Morgan's attorney) and myself.

My 15 page affidavit opposing the motion to dismiss explains in detail why it was impossible for any Boeing 767 to have flown at the speeds they were alleged to have flown at and that no Boeing 767 crashed into the World Trade Center on 911 as alleged by the defendants.

My affidavit was filed with the United States District Court Southern District of New York on January 28, 2008.

I will be posting the affidavit here soon.

[mojo]

The immediate objective for the attack was to create an enemy out of Arab/Muslims and make them "terrorists" and to use that as an excuse to immediately invade Afghanistan to expand their opium poppy crop and invade Iraq for her oil and to use as staging base to attack other Middle East countries.

The opium crop in Afghanistan went from 14% of the world's production in 2001 to 94% of the world's production in 2007.

The U.S. is in charge of the cultivation, harvest, production, distribution and sale of all of that 94%.



Regarding the opium trade i have no doubt what so ever that the US is somehow heavily involved in this.
It has been a major cash cow for various agency's for decades.

Oil in Iraq!! i thought you guy's went there because of all the WMD's. LOL.

These two reasons alone make enough sense as to why the WOT was instigated.

[Psylicone Psynapse]

To true Mojo,Opium has long been used to generate money for sicko government projects like wars and such.
USAID are apparently irrigating a whole lot of land in 'stan,the opium trade is growing,and someone is buying it...

Its such a great substance for sick evil bastards to work with--Hell you can sell it for big profit and criminalize whatever ethnic group you want to make look bad...

So makes rucks of money whilst controlling and oppressing whoever buys it.
Us Brits went into all out war with China over opium back in the day...
I mean those Chinese scoundrels-how dare they try to stop us importing smack to their population to fund our other wars...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars

And its never really stopped...the same people control 95% of the heroin trade across the world even today...the western governments/secret governments.